1 00:00:05,150 --> 00:00:02,929 the views opinions and research 2 00:00:07,249 --> 00:00:05,160 conclusions expressed on this show are 3 00:00:09,169 --> 00:00:07,259 those of the show host and not 4 00:00:12,169 --> 00:00:09,179 necessarily those of the network access 5 00:00:15,350 --> 00:00:12,179 Northwest Community Radio are any of its 6 00:00:17,630 --> 00:00:15,360 associates the author and host is solely 7 00:00:19,099 --> 00:00:17,640 responsible for its content the author 8 00:00:21,140 --> 00:00:19,109 has made every endeavor to be 9 00:00:23,450 --> 00:00:21,150 historically accurate and factually 10 00:00:25,269 --> 00:00:23,460 correct based on the written audio and 11 00:00:27,410 --> 00:00:25,279 video claims of the person in question 12 00:00:29,990 --> 00:00:27,420 the playing of this show does not 13 00:00:46,850 --> 00:00:30,000 constitute as an endorsement by Access 14 00:00:48,619 --> 00:00:46,860 Northwest radio I recently heard him 15 00:00:50,660 --> 00:00:48,629 talk at the Outer Limits conferences 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:50,670 somewhere I found his talk particularly 17 00:00:54,709 --> 00:00:52,890 interesting due to the fact that he was 18 00:00:57,650 --> 00:00:54,719 talking about his experiences with the 19 00:00:58,849 --> 00:00:57,660 greys I could go on but to be honest I'd 20 00:01:01,610 --> 00:00:58,859 rather just get straight into the 21 00:01:06,410 --> 00:01:01,620 conversation so hi Phil welcome to my 22 00:01:11,330 --> 00:01:06,420 slice of life thank you very much for 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:11,340 having me yeah I mean I've loved meeting 24 00:01:22,219 --> 00:01:20,130 new companies I've been looking forward 25 00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:22,229 to speaking to here because we've got 26 00:01:29,810 --> 00:01:25,710 some things in common and you're trying 27 00:01:32,350 --> 00:01:29,820 to kind of find an overall picture of 28 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:32,360 what might be going on with the Grays as 29 00:01:40,490 --> 00:01:37,530 most of us experiences but you'll be 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:40,500 interesting to go over that for my 31 00:01:47,420 --> 00:01:42,329 listeners because they like that kind of 32 00:01:50,030 --> 00:01:47,430 thing so I mean one of the things is 33 00:01:52,639 --> 00:01:50,040 after that you know when someone does 34 00:01:55,580 --> 00:01:52,649 have and what is called an abduction 35 00:01:58,039 --> 00:01:55,590 that at the point that it happens you 36 00:02:01,609 --> 00:01:58,049 know with myself back in the winter of 37 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:01,619 1989 I didn't understand what actually 38 00:02:08,150 --> 00:02:05,610 had happened it's only when you start to 39 00:02:09,740 --> 00:02:08,160 realize that the experience seemed to 40 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:09,750 change you in some way and leave you 41 00:02:13,820 --> 00:02:12,959 with physical marks and when system that 42 00:02:15,590 --> 00:02:13,830 we serve tell 43 00:02:18,170 --> 00:02:15,600 sooo that there are no such things as 44 00:02:20,930 --> 00:02:18,180 UFOs there are no such things as aliens 45 00:02:22,670 --> 00:02:20,940 and that you know that the the taboo 46 00:02:24,770 --> 00:02:22,680 subject on life after death 47 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:24,780 well it's blatantly clear to the 48 00:02:27,950 --> 00:02:26,010 individual who's gone through the 49 00:02:31,310 --> 00:02:27,960 experience that either you're lying or 50 00:02:33,740 --> 00:02:31,320 the system's lying and I discovered that 51 00:02:35,390 --> 00:02:33,750 actually it's not you as the individual 52 00:02:38,510 --> 00:02:35,400 who's lying but we are being lied to 53 00:02:41,150 --> 00:02:38,520 that there is a consensus to conceal 54 00:02:44,870 --> 00:02:41,160 this information from the general public 55 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:44,880 and I like the way Sachi brought into 56 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:47,250 the greys because that is what I 57 00:02:52,370 --> 00:02:49,890 experience so I can't talk for other 58 00:02:54,410 --> 00:02:52,380 areas of the UFO phenomena like other 59 00:02:56,660 --> 00:02:54,420 life-forms that certain people have 60 00:02:59,240 --> 00:02:56,670 experienced but the greys seemed to be 61 00:03:01,310 --> 00:02:59,250 the main area of interest and certainly 62 00:03:04,370 --> 00:03:01,320 very famous within the field of 63 00:03:06,550 --> 00:03:04,380 ufological research so that's where I 64 00:03:09,590 --> 00:03:06,560 got interested with regards to the greys 65 00:03:14,180 --> 00:03:09,600 the experience itself that I had back in 66 00:03:16,850 --> 00:03:14,190 1989 was very very bizarre I'd come back 67 00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:16,860 from work and at that time we'd lived in 68 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:19,110 a small village and of Mastan more tane 69 00:03:23,630 --> 00:03:21,690 which is some miles outside of Bedford 70 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:23,640 sure and and in order to get to work I 71 00:03:28,190 --> 00:03:25,890 used to have to get the train from Mill 72 00:03:31,100 --> 00:03:28,200 Brook to Bedford and on this particular 73 00:03:33,890 --> 00:03:31,110 night that I'd come back it was winter 74 00:03:36,380 --> 00:03:33,900 so it would have been dark I've made my 75 00:03:38,449 --> 00:03:36,390 way home and the only people in the 76 00:03:41,570 --> 00:03:38,459 house was my brother and my sister and 77 00:03:43,580 --> 00:03:41,580 our dog Benji and we we lived on a 78 00:03:46,699 --> 00:03:43,590 corner in a cul-de-sac so it's quite a 79 00:03:48,949 --> 00:03:46,709 big house so I I walked up to the drive 80 00:03:50,449 --> 00:03:48,959 went inside you know say hello walk 81 00:03:52,220 --> 00:03:50,459 through the hall and then into the 82 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:52,230 kitchen and we're just having a drink 83 00:03:56,930 --> 00:03:53,730 and talking about the normal stuff that 84 00:03:59,120 --> 00:03:56,940 people normally talk about and all of a 85 00:04:01,340 --> 00:03:59,130 sudden where I'm stood within the 86 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:01,350 kitchen and Stroke diner the the dining 87 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:03,360 room door is opened which leads out to 88 00:04:07,820 --> 00:04:05,010 the hall and we had frosted glass 89 00:04:10,729 --> 00:04:07,830 windows that lead out to be to the 90 00:04:13,220 --> 00:04:10,739 driveway and I I suddenly felt this 91 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:13,230 strange atmosphere it was almost as if 92 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:15,450 it was electrical current that started 93 00:04:23,090 --> 00:04:20,070 running around the room and my brother 94 00:04:25,370 --> 00:04:23,100 went into some type of strange trance 95 00:04:26,749 --> 00:04:25,380 and and he was at the corner so he 96 00:04:29,689 --> 00:04:26,759 didn't have 97 00:04:31,429 --> 00:04:29,699 the the central observations where I was 98 00:04:32,689 --> 00:04:31,439 but he went into his trance and he 99 00:04:34,129 --> 00:04:32,699 lifted his head up and said there's 100 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:34,139 going to be an earthquake or grandma's 101 00:04:40,129 --> 00:04:37,050 gonna die and at that point it was so 102 00:04:41,929 --> 00:04:40,139 quick this light came up from what I 103 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:41,939 thought was a car light from out the 104 00:04:45,439 --> 00:04:43,770 front through the frosted glass windows 105 00:04:47,779 --> 00:04:45,449 and the light started to increase in 106 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:47,789 intensity through the glass doors of the 107 00:04:55,189 --> 00:04:51,210 house and then I could see the glass 108 00:04:57,170 --> 00:04:55,199 door starting to bends like it like it's 109 00:04:59,450 --> 00:04:57,180 weird it was like bending like something 110 00:05:01,670 --> 00:04:59,460 was trying to come through at this point 111 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:01,680 the dog was really barking and yelping 112 00:05:07,459 --> 00:05:05,490 and and I at that moment I didn't know 113 00:05:10,219 --> 00:05:07,469 how to react to this very strange 114 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:10,229 experience and then it became even more 115 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:12,449 bizarre when I saw this small figure 116 00:05:16,879 --> 00:05:14,849 that was about three foot tall clad all 117 00:05:19,129 --> 00:05:16,889 in black with what I thought was a black 118 00:05:22,550 --> 00:05:19,139 motorcycle helmet on its head 119 00:05:25,490 --> 00:05:22,560 very thin body and it came through the 120 00:05:28,550 --> 00:05:25,500 glass door like it just popped through 121 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:28,560 and ran through to the bottom of what 122 00:05:32,450 --> 00:05:30,240 was then my brother's and mine 123 00:05:36,379 --> 00:05:32,460 study stroke bedroom it was a big room 124 00:05:39,260 --> 00:05:36,389 downstairs huge room and at that point I 125 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:39,270 froze I you know when you're met with 126 00:05:44,029 --> 00:05:42,240 something that challenges the normal 127 00:05:46,070 --> 00:05:44,039 processing of everyday life and you're 128 00:05:50,269 --> 00:05:46,080 met with something so besides like well 129 00:05:52,820 --> 00:05:50,279 what's just happened but anyway I the 130 00:05:55,189 --> 00:05:52,830 dogs going mad crazy really mad and then 131 00:05:58,249 --> 00:05:55,199 I see this thing come from the corner of 132 00:06:00,860 --> 00:05:58,259 the room in the hall and I ran across up 133 00:06:02,629 --> 00:06:00,870 the stairs and at that point I freaked 134 00:06:04,339 --> 00:06:02,639 out I took a knife from the drawer 135 00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:04,349 behind me and I shouted there's an 136 00:06:08,629 --> 00:06:06,960 intruder in the house and I shouted 137 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:08,639 again there's an intruder in the house 138 00:06:15,260 --> 00:06:12,930 and when we had made you know search of 139 00:06:17,209 --> 00:06:15,270 the house upstairs all the rooms there 140 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:17,219 was nothing and I remembered that night 141 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:20,250 I broke down because I couldn't 142 00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:23,330 understand what it meant and then heart 143 00:06:28,879 --> 00:06:26,479 initially I thought that was it until 144 00:06:30,529 --> 00:06:28,889 the early hours of the morning and 145 00:06:33,559 --> 00:06:30,539 something that was even more bizarre 146 00:06:36,170 --> 00:06:33,569 that occurred that I had that I've paid 147 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:36,180 the price for unfortunately when the 148 00:06:40,340 --> 00:06:38,880 media machine got involved with with the 149 00:06:44,180 --> 00:06:40,350 fine finer aspects 150 00:06:46,100 --> 00:06:44,190 what we call an abduction so we couldn't 151 00:06:48,470 --> 00:06:46,110 find any evidence of this thing my 152 00:06:50,180 --> 00:06:48,480 brother had come out of his trance he 153 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:50,190 doesn't understand why he said what he 154 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:51,930 said because our maternal grandmother 155 00:06:55,940 --> 00:06:53,610 was still alive at that point and it 156 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:55,950 certainly was no earthquake my sister 157 00:06:59,360 --> 00:06:57,210 had been in the far corner of the room 158 00:07:01,610 --> 00:06:59,370 that had witnessed and everything that 159 00:07:04,190 --> 00:07:01,620 had occurred bar from seeing the being I 160 00:07:08,780 --> 00:07:04,200 have I was the only one and the dog I'm 161 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:08,790 sorry to say to top the being come 162 00:07:12,950 --> 00:07:10,530 through the door and then run up through 163 00:07:15,620 --> 00:07:12,960 the hall up the stairs to UPS to that up 164 00:07:18,460 --> 00:07:15,630 of the house so in the early hours of 165 00:07:21,070 --> 00:07:18,470 the morning I then found myself because 166 00:07:25,550 --> 00:07:21,080 our room was downstairs 167 00:07:28,010 --> 00:07:25,560 floating on my back and I woke up on my 168 00:07:31,550 --> 00:07:28,020 back and I was probably about three foot 169 00:07:33,770 --> 00:07:31,560 off the floor and I was coming through 170 00:07:35,990 --> 00:07:33,780 the hall it was all dark and I 171 00:07:38,510 --> 00:07:36,000 remembered thinking well this is weird 172 00:07:42,890 --> 00:07:38,520 because I can't move and something's 173 00:07:45,650 --> 00:07:42,900 moving me my head was facing the going 174 00:07:48,740 --> 00:07:45,660 towards the hall so as I went through 175 00:07:52,010 --> 00:07:48,750 the closed glass doors to the kitchen 176 00:07:54,230 --> 00:07:52,020 because it's all glass I kept thinking 177 00:07:57,260 --> 00:07:54,240 well how am I able to get through solid 178 00:07:59,240 --> 00:07:57,270 matter how is this possible and still I 179 00:08:01,550 --> 00:07:59,250 went through I was being pulled through 180 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:01,560 the kitchen through to the conservatory 181 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:03,090 doors through to the conservatory and 182 00:08:07,730 --> 00:08:04,890 out to the garden and we had a very big 183 00:08:10,340 --> 00:08:07,740 garden with a pond and as I was being 184 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:10,350 taken outside I remembered being circled 185 00:08:16,250 --> 00:08:13,170 upright so I was now looking up at the 186 00:08:18,710 --> 00:08:16,260 sky that was pitch black and there were 187 00:08:21,740 --> 00:08:18,720 UFOs flying across the sky and I'm 188 00:08:25,070 --> 00:08:21,750 thinking in this state UFOs are real 189 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:25,080 they're real they actually exist and as 190 00:08:29,450 --> 00:08:27,210 all these crafts were flying through the 191 00:08:31,450 --> 00:08:29,460 sky there was one main one that seemed 192 00:08:34,540 --> 00:08:31,460 stationary and caught my attention and 193 00:08:38,659 --> 00:08:34,550 Osuna had I focused upon the the 194 00:08:40,850 --> 00:08:38,669 spherical silver object Weis pulled up 195 00:08:42,110 --> 00:08:40,860 so it felt like you know when you're on 196 00:08:45,050 --> 00:08:42,120 a roller coaster and you get that 197 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:45,060 feeling I should taking the dip down and 198 00:08:49,460 --> 00:08:46,770 it felt like I was going up and I was 199 00:08:52,190 --> 00:08:49,470 getting moving much faster towards it 200 00:08:54,230 --> 00:08:52,200 and then I blacked out the next part is 201 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:54,240 the most horrific 202 00:08:59,120 --> 00:08:56,970 and this is where this is what led me 203 00:09:01,850 --> 00:08:59,130 into a lifelong study and investigation 204 00:09:04,730 --> 00:09:01,860 of the facts and the fantasy and all the 205 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:04,740 rubbish of UF ology I wanted to find out 206 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:07,890 what the abduction phenomena meant and 207 00:09:16,300 --> 00:09:11,010 what that these entities were shall I 208 00:09:19,730 --> 00:09:16,310 explain what happened I awoke 209 00:09:23,150 --> 00:09:19,740 disorientated and I found myself in a 210 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:23,160 room that was very hot and slightly very 211 00:09:27,170 --> 00:09:25,530 dull I couldn't I couldn't see a great 212 00:09:30,380 --> 00:09:27,180 deal of what was what was in the room 213 00:09:33,350 --> 00:09:30,390 because I found myself strapped to a bed 214 00:09:37,070 --> 00:09:33,360 and the the sudden shock and realization 215 00:09:39,470 --> 00:09:37,080 of finding myself strapped naked to this 216 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:39,480 bed horrified me because it was like you 217 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:41,490 know when you're in one of those dreams 218 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:43,680 and you wake up and then you you you you 219 00:09:47,900 --> 00:09:46,050 can't work out what's happened around 220 00:09:50,150 --> 00:09:47,910 you like when you wake sometimes do you 221 00:09:53,060 --> 00:09:50,160 think what day of the week is what day 222 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:53,070 of the week is it or woke up on this bed 223 00:10:00,650 --> 00:09:56,130 and I'm strapped to it and it's hot it's 224 00:10:04,190 --> 00:10:00,660 very very hot it's like a sauna and I 225 00:10:06,350 --> 00:10:04,200 then realize that they that something 226 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:06,360 has been put in the lower part of my 227 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:09,810 anatomy and the the actual object itself 228 00:10:14,810 --> 00:10:12,330 I could feel within my stomach so I 229 00:10:17,270 --> 00:10:14,820 realized there was something inside me 230 00:10:19,250 --> 00:10:17,280 but seemed to be pulsating within my 231 00:10:23,750 --> 00:10:19,260 stomach and at this point I freaked 232 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:23,760 huh dn't move and I was hot and I 233 00:10:28,940 --> 00:10:26,490 remembered lifting my head up to see 234 00:10:33,650 --> 00:10:28,950 what was going on and when I turned to 235 00:10:35,900 --> 00:10:33,660 my right there were I paid the price for 236 00:10:37,970 --> 00:10:35,910 this there were three reptilians and 237 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:37,980 they were very tall they didn't 238 00:10:42,580 --> 00:10:40,650 communicate they were moving backwards 239 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:42,590 and forwards in this very strange 240 00:10:47,900 --> 00:10:45,930 ritualistic trance movement but they 241 00:10:50,750 --> 00:10:47,910 were covered in fog there was a lot of 242 00:10:52,730 --> 00:10:50,760 steam everywhere and I started to scream 243 00:10:55,820 --> 00:10:52,740 and asked them to remove this thing out 244 00:10:59,870 --> 00:10:55,830 of me I want them to get this out of me 245 00:11:02,360 --> 00:10:59,880 I was petrified I can't express the fear 246 00:11:03,620 --> 00:11:02,370 that I had gone through and it's a 247 00:11:05,780 --> 00:11:03,630 nightmare that I will always remember 248 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:05,790 for as long as I live even all the way 249 00:11:09,889 --> 00:11:07,529 back in 1989 250 00:11:11,780 --> 00:11:09,899 and they it was like I was a piece of 251 00:11:14,420 --> 00:11:11,790 meat I didn't matter to them I was 252 00:11:16,069 --> 00:11:14,430 nothing to them but this thing inside me 253 00:11:18,429 --> 00:11:16,079 I wanted out and then there were this 254 00:11:21,739 --> 00:11:18,439 gray but it was more of a cream-colored 255 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:21,749 gray that came yeah 256 00:11:29,210 --> 00:11:25,970 and it came forward and I can't remember 257 00:11:32,420 --> 00:11:29,220 you know what was going on at that point 258 00:11:34,730 --> 00:11:32,430 because I was so horrified I wanted it 259 00:11:36,949 --> 00:11:34,740 out but he came forward and I assumed it 260 00:11:39,259 --> 00:11:36,959 was a he and the straps were released 261 00:11:41,809 --> 00:11:39,269 and his mechanism had gone off the come 262 00:11:44,210 --> 00:11:41,819 out and gone across the floor and I was 263 00:11:46,189 --> 00:11:44,220 ordered to sit I was ordered to dress 264 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:46,199 and I was ordered to follow it but you 265 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:47,850 know what I felt kind of like a little 266 00:11:54,110 --> 00:11:50,720 bit empathic because I felt that this 267 00:11:58,249 --> 00:11:54,120 smaller being people call the gray had 268 00:12:00,290 --> 00:11:58,259 released me from this nightmare when he 269 00:12:03,170 --> 00:12:00,300 asked me to follow him I remembered 270 00:12:06,170 --> 00:12:03,180 walking through this to this room that 271 00:12:07,670 --> 00:12:06,180 had no windows there were no doors there 272 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:07,680 were these very dull lights that was 273 00:12:12,889 --> 00:12:09,689 coming through the the steam of the room 274 00:12:15,530 --> 00:12:12,899 and then he came to this wall and the 275 00:12:17,049 --> 00:12:15,540 wall opened and we're getting to the 276 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:17,059 last part of this very strange 277 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:21,569 experience the wall opened and I could 278 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:24,930 see the village now that wherever we 279 00:12:30,740 --> 00:12:27,930 were was above the house and when I 280 00:12:33,710 --> 00:12:30,750 looked out there was another craft that 281 00:12:36,230 --> 00:12:33,720 was hanging very low to our conservatory 282 00:12:40,129 --> 00:12:36,240 and I could just make out the forming of 283 00:12:43,549 --> 00:12:40,139 another being gray took me to a wall and 284 00:12:45,889 --> 00:12:43,559 the wall opened up and when I looked out 285 00:12:48,049 --> 00:12:45,899 I could see that we that we were at a 286 00:12:50,389 --> 00:12:48,059 height and we were above our house and 287 00:12:52,850 --> 00:12:50,399 that when I looked to the corner I could 288 00:12:56,019 --> 00:12:52,860 see there was another cylindrical craft 289 00:12:59,030 --> 00:12:56,029 hanging very low by our conservatory 290 00:13:00,590 --> 00:12:59,040 conservatory building and it was another 291 00:13:02,509 --> 00:13:00,600 smaller being I couldn't make out much 292 00:13:04,369 --> 00:13:02,519 from from that but the being was saying 293 00:13:06,499 --> 00:13:04,379 right get out and I'm like you want me 294 00:13:07,939 --> 00:13:06,509 to get out I have a fear about Heights 295 00:13:11,239 --> 00:13:07,949 you want me to leave my stuff and get 296 00:13:12,860 --> 00:13:11,249 upset I knew was that they'd it wasn't a 297 00:13:15,199 --> 00:13:12,870 push but it was like I was shoved out 298 00:13:18,829 --> 00:13:15,209 and I was amazed that I could float down 299 00:13:20,389 --> 00:13:18,839 to through the air and to the garden and 300 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:20,399 there were two graves beside me they 301 00:13:23,940 --> 00:13:21,370 told me I wasn't 302 00:13:26,310 --> 00:13:23,950 look at them and as I came down to the 303 00:13:29,490 --> 00:13:26,320 ground I was this is the the last part 304 00:13:31,620 --> 00:13:29,500 to this very bizarre experience there 305 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:31,630 was another gray standing in front of me 306 00:13:34,470 --> 00:13:33,130 and these are the two bugs had cleared 307 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:34,480 off I don't know what happened to them 308 00:13:39,570 --> 00:13:36,970 they just went but this other gray 309 00:13:43,050 --> 00:13:39,580 seemed a little bit more human 310 00:13:45,690 --> 00:13:43,060 his face was pear-shaped it had slightly 311 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:45,700 smaller eyes from the big almond shaped 312 00:13:49,260 --> 00:13:46,690 eyes the gray SAFF 313 00:13:51,329 --> 00:13:49,270 but it wore this pointed hat on its head 314 00:13:53,460 --> 00:13:51,339 and it were a one-piece uniform with 315 00:13:55,710 --> 00:13:53,470 with knee length boots and it had his 316 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:55,720 arms folded across its chest and it was 317 00:13:59,730 --> 00:13:57,250 looking at me really angry and I thought 318 00:14:01,860 --> 00:13:59,740 well who the hell are you I mean I just 319 00:14:04,769 --> 00:14:01,870 come from up there and you know he was 320 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:04,779 looking at me so angry and so nasty I 321 00:14:08,940 --> 00:14:06,730 could feel it within my solar plexus or 322 00:14:10,650 --> 00:14:08,950 my stomach I felt like I wanted to go to 323 00:14:12,780 --> 00:14:10,660 the loo I know it sounds embarrassing 324 00:14:14,190 --> 00:14:12,790 but he scared me that much and I thought 325 00:14:16,380 --> 00:14:14,200 what are you looking at me like that for 326 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:16,390 I've just been through all this and I 327 00:14:20,730 --> 00:14:18,130 kept thinking I need to ask him 328 00:14:23,010 --> 00:14:20,740 something I need to find out if 329 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:23,020 something about them if he can give me 330 00:14:27,780 --> 00:14:24,850 the answer I will know what they are I 331 00:14:31,350 --> 00:14:27,790 will know where they come from and I 332 00:14:33,750 --> 00:14:31,360 said to him how the hell am I able to 333 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:33,760 get through locked and bolted doors and 334 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:37,510 his face turned to surprise if you can 335 00:14:42,180 --> 00:14:39,910 imagine animated plastic moving 336 00:14:45,260 --> 00:14:42,190 I poured him Noddy he didn't look like 337 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:45,270 Noddy but the way that he moved was so 338 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:48,250 horrible and I then found myself 339 00:14:53,940 --> 00:14:51,130 crashing through going through really 340 00:14:56,250 --> 00:14:53,950 fast the conservative glass doors the 341 00:14:58,920 --> 00:14:56,260 kitchen glass doors and then through to 342 00:15:01,260 --> 00:14:58,930 the bedroom and bang I was up I had a 343 00:15:04,490 --> 00:15:01,270 nosebleed instantly I got up and I had 344 00:15:09,540 --> 00:15:04,500 to go to the loo and I felt very 345 00:15:11,940 --> 00:15:09,550 violated now the next day I kept 346 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:11,950 suffering nosebleeds severe nosebleeds 347 00:15:19,170 --> 00:15:17,290 and I had a mark on the back of my right 348 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:19,180 ear that was in the shape of a perfect 349 00:15:23,250 --> 00:15:21,610 triangle and my brother tried to take a 350 00:15:26,430 --> 00:15:23,260 poll do you remember the old Polaroid 351 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:26,440 and and it wouldn't come out and I've 352 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:29,050 got three marks on my arm and I needless 353 00:15:32,220 --> 00:15:30,610 to say I couldn't walk very well and 354 00:15:34,290 --> 00:15:32,230 someone said to me why don't you go to 355 00:15:35,340 --> 00:15:34,300 the doctors and I thought yeah I'll go 356 00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:35,350 to the doctors and 357 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:37,360 sorry I've got to say this yeah I've 358 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:38,770 been probed by aliens like they're going 359 00:15:45,180 --> 00:15:40,330 to take me seriously there was no one 360 00:15:47,610 --> 00:15:45,190 you could really talk to but in a pointy 361 00:15:50,490 --> 00:15:47,620 hat and another one with the helmet on 362 00:15:52,890 --> 00:15:50,500 you know like people have said this to 363 00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:52,900 me in the past oh if you get traumatized 364 00:15:55,740 --> 00:15:55,360 by go see a psychologist they can't tell 365 00:16:00,690 --> 00:15:55,750 anyone 366 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:00,700 yeah they can if you've got children you 367 00:16:14,850 --> 00:16:11,050 know I suppose there are people that 368 00:16:17,340 --> 00:16:14,860 kind of situation yeah even though I 369 00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:17,350 have talked to therapists before about 370 00:16:22,410 --> 00:16:19,990 the two of them I knew that it was safe 371 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:22,420 to talk to them because of the kind of 372 00:16:27,150 --> 00:16:24,910 people that they were but you're not 373 00:16:29,130 --> 00:16:27,160 guaranteed to get any understand if I 374 00:16:32,070 --> 00:16:29,140 went to my GP and then I told him all 375 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:32,080 this he was literally think I was a 376 00:16:36,900 --> 00:16:34,930 crazy person yeah well there's more to 377 00:16:40,140 --> 00:16:36,910 it than that and I realized I wasn't 378 00:16:41,850 --> 00:16:40,150 going crazy because at that point Sascha 379 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:41,860 like yourself when you have been 380 00:16:47,310 --> 00:16:45,040 violated I couldn't work out years later 381 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:47,320 when people talked about an abduction 382 00:16:51,930 --> 00:16:49,810 whether or not why it felt like a dream 383 00:16:54,810 --> 00:16:51,940 state and yet you still suffered the 384 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:54,820 physical scarring and the emotional 385 00:16:58,860 --> 00:16:57,370 disruption that we all go through 386 00:17:01,680 --> 00:16:58,870 through this type of thing no one can 387 00:17:03,510 --> 00:17:01,690 understand that so that led me then into 388 00:17:05,580 --> 00:17:03,520 the sphere of what we were dealing with 389 00:17:08,010 --> 00:17:05,590 like you I don't deal with rubbish I 390 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:08,020 deal with black and white and if we have 391 00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:09,610 to go forward into uncomfortable 392 00:17:14,970 --> 00:17:12,310 territory then so be it but I did start 393 00:17:20,250 --> 00:17:14,980 to many years later I had problems with 394 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:20,260 my right ear and a few years ago I'd 395 00:17:24,390 --> 00:17:22,450 gone to the doctors on several occasions 396 00:17:26,670 --> 00:17:24,400 because my right ear felt like there was 397 00:17:30,270 --> 00:17:26,680 something in it and it felt waterlogged 398 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:30,280 and and they'd gone in and they looked 399 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:31,930 at it they looked at it and they said 400 00:17:34,740 --> 00:17:33,250 well there's something that seems to be 401 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:34,750 healing but they never once sent me to 402 00:17:39,300 --> 00:17:36,250 the hospital now on the last occasion 403 00:17:41,010 --> 00:17:39,310 I'd gone about my ear they've looked 404 00:17:42,780 --> 00:17:41,020 into it and then the nurse brought a 405 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:42,790 doctor down to have a good look so 406 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:44,170 they're looking in my right ear and 407 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:45,760 they're aiming and are and I'm thinking 408 00:17:47,850 --> 00:17:47,170 well what if they what are they looking 409 00:17:49,740 --> 00:17:47,860 at in there 410 00:17:51,780 --> 00:17:49,750 you know you start to worry about things 411 00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:51,790 like the dreaded c-word or anything like 412 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:55,120 and said the doctor said with it well it 413 00:17:59,850 --> 00:17:57,610 looks like there's some crystalline sub 414 00:18:02,310 --> 00:17:59,860 substance to it and it looks like it's 415 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:02,320 still healing well I didn't understand 416 00:18:06,090 --> 00:18:03,610 what they were talking about and I'm 417 00:18:08,370 --> 00:18:06,100 kind of like sitting upright and it was 418 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:08,380 only when the doctor had left they 419 00:18:11,670 --> 00:18:09,970 looked she left she didn't say anything 420 00:18:12,990 --> 00:18:11,680 more about going to get it analyzed or 421 00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:13,000 go and get it checked out at the 422 00:18:17,010 --> 00:18:14,710 hospital to take a further examination 423 00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:17,020 of it and the nurse who knows that I'm a 424 00:18:21,270 --> 00:18:19,150 medium she doesn't know about me UFO 425 00:18:22,620 --> 00:18:21,280 research because you know a lot of 426 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:22,630 people I mean I I'm not one of those 427 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:24,370 people but she turned around she said 428 00:18:27,690 --> 00:18:26,050 have you been abducted by aliens and 429 00:18:29,130 --> 00:18:27,700 I've got to tell you I walked back to my 430 00:18:33,450 --> 00:18:29,140 car far worse than I went into the 431 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:33,460 doctor with this so is there something 432 00:18:37,980 --> 00:18:35,770 in there I believe there is and because 433 00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:37,990 at one point I felt it move and I'm not 434 00:18:42,630 --> 00:18:40,390 one for sensationalism or you know this 435 00:18:45,150 --> 00:18:42,640 happened to me I report facts as they 436 00:18:47,910 --> 00:18:45,160 occur but certainly with the abduction 437 00:18:50,340 --> 00:18:47,920 phenomena there seems to be two parts to 438 00:18:52,890 --> 00:18:50,350 this one part that seems to operate on a 439 00:18:54,930 --> 00:18:52,900 physical level of reality and the other 440 00:18:57,360 --> 00:18:54,940 part when the abduction takes place 441 00:19:00,750 --> 00:18:57,370 seems almost a thrill and dream like 442 00:19:02,970 --> 00:19:00,760 almost at the point where you you're 443 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:02,980 kind of like put in a situation where 444 00:19:06,810 --> 00:19:05,050 they don't want you to see it as a 445 00:19:10,140 --> 00:19:06,820 reality they want you to see it as 446 00:19:13,380 --> 00:19:10,150 fantasy but unfortunately with my very 447 00:19:15,930 --> 00:19:13,390 not unique experience taught me a lot 448 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:15,940 more and from that moment onwards and 449 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:17,050 there have been other things that 450 00:19:21,780 --> 00:19:19,450 happened in my past I wanted to find out 451 00:19:24,570 --> 00:19:21,790 what the greys were where they come from 452 00:19:27,570 --> 00:19:24,580 why that why they are here and why the 453 00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:27,580 cover-up and and it was I was not more I 454 00:19:31,260 --> 00:19:29,440 was not interested about the things that 455 00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:31,270 happened to me I was more interested in 456 00:19:37,590 --> 00:19:34,000 the truth of the reality and at that 457 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:37,600 point onwards I made it my mission to 458 00:19:43,170 --> 00:19:40,330 find out the truth of what we are 459 00:19:45,150 --> 00:19:43,180 dealing with so that that is like 460 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:45,160 yourself Sarah I know that you've had 461 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:49,330 you know a pretty intense experiences 462 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:52,450 with you know what we call aliens and 463 00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:55,690 UFOs but when as you know it happens to 464 00:20:01,170 --> 00:19:58,810 you it changes you it's it kind of like 465 00:20:01,620 --> 00:20:01,180 you're on a mission now to find out what 466 00:20:07,130 --> 00:20:01,630 the hell 467 00:20:09,810 --> 00:20:07,140 things about it with the UFO community 468 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:09,820 because there's so many people try to 469 00:20:14,610 --> 00:20:12,370 sell their ideas when they've not even 470 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:14,620 experienced anything fair enough you 471 00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:16,809 know there's a market for that stuff and 472 00:20:21,390 --> 00:20:19,120 they are entitled to muse bubble to 473 00:20:23,580 --> 00:20:21,400 their heart's content but when you're 474 00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:23,590 talking to me and you're telling me how 475 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:25,840 it is when I don't even know and I've 476 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:26,770 been through it 477 00:20:31,830 --> 00:20:29,200 that is what educates me and the other 478 00:20:35,250 --> 00:20:31,840 thing is is all of the pollution it is 479 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:35,260 obscuring the actuality and that is what 480 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:37,330 I want to know and this is why I'm like 481 00:20:41,789 --> 00:20:39,370 nope don't talk to you like you know 482 00:20:44,039 --> 00:20:41,799 what other people that have said things 483 00:20:45,899 --> 00:20:44,049 like oh I have an implant in my neck and 484 00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:45,909 it sets off alarms at the airport ha ha 485 00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:46,630 ha ha 486 00:20:50,159 --> 00:20:48,880 no you haven't and if you are you'd be 487 00:20:51,930 --> 00:20:50,169 freaking out about it 488 00:20:53,010 --> 00:20:51,940 yeah you wouldn't be happy you wouldn't 489 00:20:55,140 --> 00:20:53,020 think it was funny 490 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:55,150 certainly not triggering alarms when 491 00:21:00,060 --> 00:20:56,650 you're going through the airport what 492 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:00,070 kind of you know and that's that's what 493 00:21:05,490 --> 00:21:03,490 I can't cope with that's I think that's 494 00:21:07,049 --> 00:21:05,500 also the thing I someone said to me are 495 00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:07,059 you gonna get it checked and I said to 496 00:21:09,450 --> 00:21:08,710 them actually I don't care I've got 497 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:09,460 nothing to prove 498 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:12,130 no if it's it and it's in me for a 499 00:21:16,620 --> 00:21:13,929 reason has it helped with the psychic 500 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:16,630 stuff I couldn't tell you but I feel as 501 00:21:21,390 --> 00:21:19,210 though you know I try to look at the 502 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:21,400 parallels with with certain individuals 503 00:21:25,049 --> 00:21:23,530 with regards to abductions and you get 504 00:21:26,399 --> 00:21:25,059 some people who claim they're abducted 505 00:21:27,930 --> 00:21:26,409 every day of the week which I think I'll 506 00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:27,940 really give me a break 507 00:21:33,659 --> 00:21:30,880 I also understand that I may have had 508 00:21:36,510 --> 00:21:33,669 another episode but I can't prove that 509 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:36,520 because I only recall a very small part 510 00:21:41,340 --> 00:21:39,130 of it and that was it UFOs my twin 511 00:21:43,260 --> 00:21:41,350 brother and I have seen most of our 512 00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:43,270 lives the last one was on the 9th of 513 00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:45,760 April 2016 which Jason Gleaves 514 00:21:50,010 --> 00:21:48,000 analyzed the footage which my niece took 515 00:21:51,779 --> 00:21:50,020 and that is something else I'm very 516 00:21:53,490 --> 00:21:51,789 proud about because we actually got some 517 00:21:55,620 --> 00:21:53,500 form of physical documentation with 518 00:21:57,930 --> 00:21:55,630 regards to that but I understand there 519 00:21:59,520 --> 00:21:57,940 are people out there who will make you 520 00:22:02,370 --> 00:21:59,530 believe anything and this is the really 521 00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:02,380 sad thing about it what we are looking 522 00:22:06,690 --> 00:22:04,480 for is evidence what we're looking for 523 00:22:09,060 --> 00:22:06,700 is truth and the only way that we're 524 00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:09,070 able to apply that is through some form 525 00:22:14,730 --> 00:22:11,740 of theoretical application because I 526 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:14,740 wanted to find out what these greys were 527 00:22:18,750 --> 00:22:16,690 and the more I did the research yeah 528 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:18,760 we're still researching we don't have 529 00:22:22,740 --> 00:22:20,650 any answers none of us know what we're 530 00:22:25,410 --> 00:22:22,750 dealing with but is important to have 531 00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:25,420 some form of theoretical model to work 532 00:22:31,049 --> 00:22:28,000 towards and studying other case studies 533 00:22:32,820 --> 00:22:31,059 with regards to genuine people who have 534 00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:32,830 experienced this and then trying to put 535 00:22:40,260 --> 00:22:36,880 the pieces together and in some years 536 00:22:43,710 --> 00:22:40,270 later in 1996 and I never would have 537 00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:43,720 believed it but I had my first and what 538 00:22:48,750 --> 00:22:46,000 I consider to be my only download and 539 00:22:51,450 --> 00:22:48,760 for your good listeners out there a 540 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:51,460 download is seems to be some type of 541 00:22:58,020 --> 00:22:55,570 information that is distributed to you 542 00:22:59,970 --> 00:22:58,030 that you can possibly have known about 543 00:23:02,400 --> 00:22:59,980 it's almost like an enlightening moment 544 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:02,410 where there's a flash of realization and 545 00:23:07,020 --> 00:23:05,050 parts to an intricate piece to part to a 546 00:23:08,730 --> 00:23:07,030 puzzle comes together and this is 547 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:08,740 exactly what happened with me with 548 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:11,290 regards to the greys because from the 549 00:23:17,910 --> 00:23:14,080 moment that I had my abduction in 1989 550 00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:17,920 and from the limited connections because 551 00:23:22,190 --> 00:23:20,110 there wasn't really any internet or you 552 00:23:25,380 --> 00:23:22,200 know connections that we have today I 553 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:25,390 struggled and worked to try and find out 554 00:23:28,980 --> 00:23:26,890 what they were and then this flash of 555 00:23:32,130 --> 00:23:28,990 inspiration came and I thought my 556 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:32,140 goodness may I I think I may have a very 557 00:23:37,410 --> 00:23:34,690 small piece to the puzzle so I typed 558 00:23:42,270 --> 00:23:37,420 this all up in it in an article sent it 559 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:42,280 to a UFO magazine I can't remember the 560 00:23:47,370 --> 00:23:45,490 name of it I was quite hot back then you 561 00:23:50,190 --> 00:23:47,380 were oh I can't remember session what it 562 00:23:52,049 --> 00:23:50,200 was called my brain's done a nuclear and 563 00:23:54,450 --> 00:23:52,059 they called it revolutionary within its 564 00:23:56,250 --> 00:23:54,460 speculation and it was just speculation 565 00:23:58,620 --> 00:23:56,260 did the greys give it to me I couldn't 566 00:24:00,630 --> 00:23:58,630 tell you all I know is that the pieces 567 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:00,640 seem to fit together with regards to one 568 00:24:05,220 --> 00:24:03,130 aspect of this phenomenon and I know 569 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:05,230 that when you go in when you were 570 00:24:07,740 --> 00:24:07,210 invited on television which when I was 571 00:24:10,110 --> 00:24:07,750 younger 572 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:10,120 seemed like wow there was no one to tell 573 00:24:13,140 --> 00:24:12,610 you about how TV worked or how the media 574 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:13,150 worked 575 00:24:17,580 --> 00:24:15,730 I was quite naive by the experience but 576 00:24:19,710 --> 00:24:17,590 it was only after there's several 577 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:19,720 programs I've been on that I realized 578 00:24:26,580 --> 00:24:23,850 that I was being used as a laughs and 579 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:26,590 truly suffered with one particular 580 00:24:30,060 --> 00:24:28,090 program 581 00:24:33,210 --> 00:24:30,070 was live and I was with Nick Pope and 582 00:24:35,550 --> 00:24:33,220 georgina Bruni Malcom Robinson was there 583 00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:35,560 and Omar Fowler he was lovely 584 00:24:39,690 --> 00:24:38,080 and they we all knew that we've been set 585 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:39,700 up because they'd seen us on some other 586 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:41,290 programs they thought oh you're a good 587 00:24:45,390 --> 00:24:43,840 speaker you come on board and they the 588 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:45,400 other programs were very nice you know 589 00:24:49,890 --> 00:24:47,770 discussions and but this was just a 590 00:24:54,030 --> 00:24:49,900 circus and they called the program 591 00:24:57,330 --> 00:24:54,040 x-files or X fools and I felt broken I 592 00:25:01,200 --> 00:24:57,340 felt a jet belt really because the way 593 00:25:04,650 --> 00:25:01,210 that they'd taken the program was to 594 00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:04,660 focus upon my experience they called 595 00:25:11,790 --> 00:25:08,110 probing and that's what they did and I 596 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:11,800 realized afterwards okay so the system 597 00:25:18,090 --> 00:25:14,410 that controls the television networks 598 00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:18,100 has got this program in place to 599 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:21,190 discredit the subject and individuals to 600 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:24,010 take away the emphasis of the reality of 601 00:25:29,370 --> 00:25:27,010 the experience and make it a laughing 602 00:25:33,330 --> 00:25:29,380 stop so at that point again I thought 603 00:25:34,980 --> 00:25:33,340 you know what saju I'm gonna try and 604 00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:34,990 find out the answers myself and 605 00:25:38,490 --> 00:25:36,880 thankfully now you know we're with a 606 00:25:41,790 --> 00:25:38,500 group of wonderful people yourself 607 00:25:44,970 --> 00:25:41,800 included Sasha who are after the truth 608 00:25:47,250 --> 00:25:44,980 and nothing but the truth so I mean you 609 00:25:49,620 --> 00:25:47,260 know theoretically I've created a model 610 00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:49,630 but it is just a model and I know that 611 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:52,060 most people won't like it but we have to 612 00:25:57,060 --> 00:25:54,850 look at all aspects of this because when 613 00:25:59,850 --> 00:25:57,070 you're dealing with the greys and the 614 00:26:01,980 --> 00:25:59,860 UFO experience are we dealing with 615 00:26:03,660 --> 00:26:01,990 something on a physical nuts and bolts 616 00:26:06,540 --> 00:26:03,670 level I believe that we do but then they 617 00:26:09,090 --> 00:26:06,550 also can you know transgress all of that 618 00:26:11,490 --> 00:26:09,100 to a non-physical experience and this is 619 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:11,500 this is what really got me involved with 620 00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:13,450 the research with regards to what we 621 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:32,710 call the greys I when I was just laying 622 00:26:37,690 --> 00:26:34,970 in bed like meditating 623 00:26:39,549 --> 00:26:37,700 basically and then on their cervix it 624 00:26:41,740 --> 00:26:39,559 was almost like looking at a TV screen 625 00:26:45,250 --> 00:26:41,750 it was when I you know trying to 626 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:45,260 visualize things it's a bit sketchy you 627 00:26:50,980 --> 00:26:48,650 know yeah super concentrate to do it and 628 00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:50,990 practice but this was just like this 629 00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:53,600 really clear blue sky with a bright 630 00:27:01,149 --> 00:26:58,640 yellow big beautiful sunflower I was 631 00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:01,159 stunned at how clear and perfect it was 632 00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:06,110 then it changed to like a wiring diagram 633 00:27:12,730 --> 00:27:09,200 and then what looked like a map and then 634 00:27:14,919 --> 00:27:12,740 this rotating sphere that was made of it 635 00:27:17,230 --> 00:27:14,929 looked like honeycomb and there was like 636 00:27:20,860 --> 00:27:17,240 data streams going down the side of it 637 00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:20,870 and this was a black with the sphere was 638 00:27:25,779 --> 00:27:23,120 like orange types that you know but it 639 00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:25,789 wasn't the data was orange typeset but 640 00:27:29,890 --> 00:27:27,919 they this fear was the same orange so 641 00:27:31,299 --> 00:27:29,900 it's orange on black and then all this 642 00:27:33,970 --> 00:27:31,309 other stuff and it got faster and faster 643 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:33,980 and faster and I thought I can't see it 644 00:27:38,350 --> 00:27:36,770 all it's too fast and then I thought it 645 00:27:40,510 --> 00:27:38,360 doesn't matter it just has to be in 646 00:27:44,919 --> 00:27:40,520 there so I just laid still and let it 647 00:27:48,460 --> 00:27:44,929 happen and I've no idea anything but it 648 00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:48,470 was a real like it was like really 649 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:50,240 really really fast images of different 650 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:52,490 things that I barely got a glimpse of 651 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:55,610 that was crazy yeah I think to be honest 652 00:27:59,860 --> 00:27:57,650 with you Sascha that when you have one 653 00:28:02,260 --> 00:27:59,870 of these experiences or multiple 654 00:28:04,270 --> 00:28:02,270 experiences I wanted to find out you 655 00:28:05,649 --> 00:28:04,280 know you're yourself as well you 656 00:28:07,419 --> 00:28:05,659 understand that when you have these 657 00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:07,429 experiences you go through some type of 658 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:11,120 not a breakdown but some type of former 659 00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:12,770 within your life but one of the things 660 00:28:18,130 --> 00:28:15,710 that I had a big hang-up about was the 661 00:28:20,380 --> 00:28:18,140 fact that you know that we were born 662 00:28:22,029 --> 00:28:20,390 that we lived that we died and that was 663 00:28:24,220 --> 00:28:22,039 the end that we were afforded a small 664 00:28:26,380 --> 00:28:24,230 glimpse of reality and then complete 665 00:28:28,570 --> 00:28:26,390 nullification of consciousness that 666 00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:28,580 scared the crap out of me sorry got to 667 00:28:37,149 --> 00:28:33,110 use that word but I have tell you that 668 00:28:40,390 --> 00:28:37,159 the the UFO phenomena that we have kind 669 00:28:43,270 --> 00:28:40,400 of like boxed into very small you know 670 00:28:45,370 --> 00:28:43,280 areas it's almost like saying well you 671 00:28:47,740 --> 00:28:45,380 know this is this and life after death 672 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:47,750 is that soul survival but what I was 673 00:28:51,940 --> 00:28:48,650 doing was 674 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:51,950 I believe that I was trying to put the 675 00:28:57,340 --> 00:28:55,010 parts together because it doesn't make 676 00:29:00,100 --> 00:28:57,350 any sense - it never made any sense to 677 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:00,110 me that we lived and we died and and 678 00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:01,970 then that was it there had to be more 679 00:29:06,970 --> 00:29:04,640 and that that realization happened when 680 00:29:10,060 --> 00:29:06,980 I'd been younger when my grandfather of 681 00:29:13,390 --> 00:29:10,070 mine on my stepfather's side had passed 682 00:29:15,730 --> 00:29:13,400 over no one spoke about death and and I 683 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:15,740 think not jumping here but with regards 684 00:29:20,410 --> 00:29:17,930 to the graves what we've understood 685 00:29:22,690 --> 00:29:20,420 about them is that they cannot reproduce 686 00:29:24,820 --> 00:29:22,700 and yet we are a species that does 687 00:29:27,580 --> 00:29:24,830 reproduce and that the greys are 688 00:29:30,610 --> 00:29:27,590 interested within our reproduction or 689 00:29:33,310 --> 00:29:30,620 what they call hybridization and that 690 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:33,320 was something that really interested me 691 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:35,450 because I'm thinking well you know most 692 00:29:39,010 --> 00:29:37,250 people put them in the bracket of alien 693 00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:39,020 well of course they would be alien but 694 00:29:44,620 --> 00:29:41,840 let's let's just imagine for a moment if 695 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:44,630 you know the way that they appear to us 696 00:29:50,169 --> 00:29:47,330 is an alien but really in fact there's 697 00:29:52,780 --> 00:29:50,179 something quite different and with 698 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:52,790 regards to the soul because the greys 699 00:29:57,549 --> 00:29:55,970 appear rather prosaic they don't seem to 700 00:30:00,250 --> 00:29:57,559 have any personality they're almost 701 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:00,260 robotic in nature and there is the 702 00:30:05,290 --> 00:30:01,730 argument of whether or not we are 703 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:05,300 dealing with androids or we are dealing 704 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:08,570 with some form of cloned entity now my 705 00:30:14,620 --> 00:30:10,850 understanding is that if you had some 706 00:30:17,290 --> 00:30:14,630 kind of robotic mechanism the idea of 707 00:30:19,660 --> 00:30:17,300 the soul would be oh and also 708 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:19,670 reproduction would be to complexed for 709 00:30:27,460 --> 00:30:23,210 the mechanism to deal with if you had 710 00:30:30,820 --> 00:30:27,470 something that was perhaps a clone you 711 00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:30,830 know a cloned entity then it would kind 712 00:30:35,020 --> 00:30:33,200 of like it made more sense to me and of 713 00:30:37,060 --> 00:30:35,030 course my research was trying to is 714 00:30:39,250 --> 00:30:37,070 still trying to work out whether or not 715 00:30:41,260 --> 00:30:39,260 they are clones whether they are demons 716 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:41,270 whether or not they are robots whether 717 00:30:45,130 --> 00:30:42,890 or not they are us from Cooper and I 718 00:30:47,770 --> 00:30:45,140 swayed more to the fact of clone because 719 00:30:50,590 --> 00:30:47,780 the theoretical application that I 720 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:50,600 created the model suggests that the 721 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:53,570 dangers of us as species have we begin 722 00:30:59,169 --> 00:30:55,490 to clone ourselves I'm not talking about 723 00:31:02,050 --> 00:30:59,179 organs but I'm about a whole human being 724 00:31:06,430 --> 00:31:02,060 and I think that perhaps the 725 00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:06,440 Ray's had or have paid the price through 726 00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:09,440 the process of cloning that they are now 727 00:31:17,050 --> 00:31:13,310 trying to harvest new DNA to recreate 728 00:31:19,630 --> 00:31:17,060 themselves or at least try to bring 729 00:31:22,030 --> 00:31:19,640 themselves back to source to what they 730 00:31:23,980 --> 00:31:22,040 have been before they became clones and 731 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:23,990 of course when you're dealing with this 732 00:31:28,180 --> 00:31:25,970 subject matter you will have all sorts 733 00:31:30,790 --> 00:31:28,190 of people you know banging on your door 734 00:31:33,550 --> 00:31:30,800 saying you're wrong it can't be this but 735 00:31:35,860 --> 00:31:33,560 let's just be patient for a moment and 736 00:31:38,740 --> 00:31:35,870 look at all aspects which I also have 737 00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:38,750 looked into and I am NOT suggesting that 738 00:31:42,820 --> 00:31:40,430 it is this or that we have to be 739 00:31:45,610 --> 00:31:42,830 open-minded by the whole phenomena so 740 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:45,620 the grasing you work on a program and to 741 00:31:51,070 --> 00:31:48,530 my mind it doesn't seem like it's good 742 00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:51,080 because their intent to keep their modus 743 00:31:57,100 --> 00:31:54,080 operandi top secret and of course we 744 00:32:00,160 --> 00:31:57,110 have the military establishments that 745 00:32:02,050 --> 00:32:00,170 also want to keep this top secret so are 746 00:32:04,210 --> 00:32:02,060 they protecting the public from a 747 00:32:05,620 --> 00:32:04,220 terrible secret or are they just wanting 748 00:32:08,110 --> 00:32:05,630 to keep it secretly because they don't 749 00:32:10,570 --> 00:32:08,120 want to know about it we don't know but 750 00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:10,580 the understanding of the greys is that 751 00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:13,550 they are very clever they know they know 752 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:18,080 how to you you know infiltrate physical 753 00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:20,210 matter they know how to connect with us 754 00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:21,950 consciously now know how the human mind 755 00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:24,910 works but in terms of personality 756 00:32:30,910 --> 00:32:28,640 memories experiences age taste colour 757 00:32:31,870 --> 00:32:30,920 the things that make us what we are as 758 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:31,880 human beings 759 00:32:38,050 --> 00:32:36,050 something the greys have lost and I 760 00:32:41,230 --> 00:32:38,060 believe that they want that they want to 761 00:32:44,820 --> 00:32:41,240 be a part of us but not go through the 762 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:44,830 cycle of death as we do as it were so 763 00:32:49,210 --> 00:32:47,450 you know and and you know I know people 764 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:49,220 say well the greys work with other 765 00:32:53,260 --> 00:32:51,650 reptilians and the greys work with the 766 00:32:55,630 --> 00:32:53,270 mantas and they're this that and the 767 00:32:59,440 --> 00:32:55,640 other but as I said we have to look at 768 00:33:01,750 --> 00:32:59,450 it from a real technical point of view 769 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:01,760 you know forget the reptilians for the 770 00:33:05,380 --> 00:33:03,530 moment or the mantas or whatever because 771 00:33:07,030 --> 00:33:05,390 the gray seemed to be the main ones that 772 00:33:09,940 --> 00:33:07,040 are given us more clues than any other 773 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:09,950 entity that we've examined within the 774 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:13,010 UFO arena so that's why I'd kind of like 775 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:16,010 try to study them so they are interested 776 00:33:20,830 --> 00:33:18,890 in us as a reproductive species and it 777 00:33:23,380 --> 00:33:20,840 was the reproductive cycle and the 778 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:23,390 hybridization program that really got me 779 00:33:29,470 --> 00:33:26,090 thinking and I thought well why would an 780 00:33:32,410 --> 00:33:29,480 organism that can't reproduce will 781 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:32,420 suddenly want to create a new species 782 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:35,090 and it got me thinking and of course in 783 00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:38,930 the download that I had seemed to reveal 784 00:33:45,490 --> 00:33:41,270 more with regards to a possible 785 00:33:48,130 --> 00:33:45,500 connection with that puzzle now with 786 00:33:50,650 --> 00:33:48,140 human sacha we have different types of 787 00:33:53,410 --> 00:33:50,660 humans we have different races we also 788 00:33:55,330 --> 00:33:53,420 are under the belief that when we die we 789 00:33:57,580 --> 00:33:55,340 have a soul I'm not going to get into 790 00:34:00,700 --> 00:33:57,590 the religious ideology ideology here 791 00:34:02,740 --> 00:34:00,710 leap out that we have a soul and that we 792 00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:02,750 when we die the soul returns back to 793 00:34:11,770 --> 00:34:06,550 source I think that's been proven yeah 794 00:34:14,740 --> 00:34:11,780 but if we float you Sasha a hundred a 795 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:14,750 thousand times you yourself is the 796 00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:16,850 genuine copy that have come through the 797 00:34:22,570 --> 00:34:19,310 correct birthing channel and carry the 798 00:34:24,610 --> 00:34:22,580 memories from perhaps past lives and the 799 00:34:27,220 --> 00:34:24,620 present to future lives you are a 800 00:34:29,649 --> 00:34:27,230 natural process of creation so when you 801 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:29,659 physically die your consciousness will 802 00:34:35,649 --> 00:34:33,050 be propelled back to source okay so your 803 00:34:39,250 --> 00:34:35,659 copies the clones the physical clones 804 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:39,260 may only have a spark of what you you 805 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:42,290 you were and they will only have the 806 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:45,530 memory of one life experience because 807 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:46,970 they would have only evolved in one 808 00:34:53,470 --> 00:34:50,090 single unit of time and therefore when 809 00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:53,480 they die my understanding is that the 810 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:55,730 spark of consciousness is not strong 811 00:35:01,210 --> 00:34:57,770 enough to be propelled back to where 812 00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:01,220 you've gone but maybe this consciousness 813 00:35:07,150 --> 00:35:03,110 is amalgamated itself to all these other 814 00:35:11,830 --> 00:35:07,160 clone souls that have found a world that 815 00:35:14,830 --> 00:35:11,840 can reproduce and thus the reproductive 816 00:35:18,850 --> 00:35:14,840 program that the greys are working on is 817 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:18,860 a project to try to perhaps slingshot 818 00:35:25,630 --> 00:35:21,890 their soul into a orjust state into an 819 00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:25,640 organism that has come through the 820 00:35:29,690 --> 00:35:28,160 correct channel of reproduction now 821 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:29,700 there are different theories 822 00:35:35,450 --> 00:35:33,690 I met dr. david jacobs who in Arizona 823 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:35,460 who told me that his research is very 824 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:38,130 much on the idea that the greys are 825 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:42,450 creating a new hybrid organism to take 826 00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:44,490 over the planet now I don't dispute that 827 00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:47,369 I believe that there are aliens among us 828 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:49,260 I know people will say well I think that 829 00:35:54,349 --> 00:35:50,970 it's lost the plot but I believe that 830 00:35:57,170 --> 00:35:54,359 but there has to be more to this than 831 00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:57,180 what we've been told and I believe that 832 00:36:04,250 --> 00:36:00,720 it has everything to do with harvesting 833 00:36:08,510 --> 00:36:04,260 DNA the soul the human soul and remember 834 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:08,520 also as a whole unit the greys aren't a 835 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:10,170 danger to themselves because they're 836 00:36:15,859 --> 00:36:13,890 able to link with one mind with humans 837 00:36:18,410 --> 00:36:15,869 we are very unpredictable 838 00:36:20,050 --> 00:36:18,420 we are very dangerous because no one 839 00:36:24,380 --> 00:36:20,060 knows what the other person is thinking 840 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:24,390 and the in which we serve is creating or 841 00:36:31,490 --> 00:36:28,050 travel one mind hive consciousness with 842 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:31,500 us as humans through you know computer 843 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:33,119 through technology getting rid of 844 00:36:40,460 --> 00:36:35,970 empathy and the emotions so you know as 845 00:36:42,770 --> 00:36:40,470 I say it's a very multi complex subject 846 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:42,780 and you know trying to put the pieces 847 00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:44,880 together but it is fascinating with 848 00:36:49,220 --> 00:36:47,280 regards to the glades and also that only 849 00:36:51,980 --> 00:36:49,230 the theoretical application that we can 850 00:36:54,819 --> 00:36:51,990 work on you know with regards to the 851 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:54,829 abduction itself which is very suspect 852 00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:57,210 and I know we have arguments from people 853 00:36:59,930 --> 00:36:58,530 saying it's the government doing this 854 00:37:07,180 --> 00:36:59,940 and making out well what a waste of time 855 00:37:16,220 --> 00:37:09,440 absolutely I mean there's so many things 856 00:37:20,359 --> 00:37:16,230 that you said that over this you know as 857 00:37:23,420 --> 00:37:20,369 far as their physical abilities I mean 858 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:23,430 they are very strong and they're very 859 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:27,690 small they're very light but they are 860 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:31,410 actually affected by light and I think 861 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:33,690 that's you know when we hear people 862 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:36,930 talking about grace wearing all black 863 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:40,170 some like black leotards that maybe come 864 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:43,210 to the knees but like a roll neck and 865 00:37:48,930 --> 00:37:45,490 got the helmet on now I've heard that 866 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:48,940 from a few people personally I've seen 867 00:37:56,670 --> 00:37:52,050 one in a silver suit in a silver helmet 868 00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:56,680 and it was a tall gray and I woke up in 869 00:38:02,220 --> 00:38:00,640 my bed and I my bed was opposite the 870 00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:02,230 bedroom door and I always have the whole 871 00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:04,569 item because the house was haunted 872 00:38:12,650 --> 00:38:09,040 I just didn't wanna be asleep so I like 873 00:38:15,089 --> 00:38:12,660 I wake up because I've got this terrible 874 00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:15,099 buzzing in my head and it's like 875 00:38:23,609 --> 00:38:18,940 somebody's you know a dentist's drill 876 00:38:27,690 --> 00:38:23,619 basically in my brain and I woke up and 877 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:27,700 I was I felt you know sort of drugged I 878 00:38:36,660 --> 00:38:32,970 guess yeah my my my motor skills were 879 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:36,670 limited I could speak and I could lift 880 00:38:42,180 --> 00:38:39,130 my head up but I was trying to sit up 881 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:42,190 and I'm trying to pull myself up on the 882 00:38:45,420 --> 00:38:43,450 quilt but all I could do is like move my 883 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:45,430 hands a bit so I was trying to pull 884 00:38:49,650 --> 00:38:47,050 myself up on the quilt but I just undid 885 00:38:51,809 --> 00:38:49,660 it with a handful at the duvet cover and 886 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:51,819 not the actual there was nothing for me 887 00:38:59,250 --> 00:38:55,450 to kind of like grip and pull up then as 888 00:39:02,480 --> 00:38:59,260 I am looking at the doorway I think I'm 889 00:39:03,690 --> 00:39:02,490 seeing a Power Ranger and then I thought 890 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:03,700 ridiculous 891 00:39:12,329 --> 00:39:08,410 it's a biker and I thought no and I 892 00:39:14,099 --> 00:39:12,339 realize what it was it was like it was 893 00:39:16,589 --> 00:39:14,109 all black at first because of the the 894 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:16,599 light just in the white was behind it 895 00:39:21,450 --> 00:39:18,010 was literally there was a light bulb 896 00:39:23,099 --> 00:39:21,460 right behind it and then I kind of 897 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:23,109 realized what it was and started 898 00:39:28,859 --> 00:39:26,530 panicking and I'm like saying no no go 899 00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:28,869 you know like go away leave me alone go 900 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:32,049 away and trying to sit up and trying to 901 00:39:35,870 --> 00:39:33,490 move and trying to do everything at once 902 00:39:40,170 --> 00:39:35,880 you know like you do when you panic in 903 00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:40,180 and it's like based on that first and 904 00:39:44,190 --> 00:39:42,250 then it sort of turned to the side and 905 00:39:45,660 --> 00:39:44,200 it was looking down the stairs and as 906 00:39:49,170 --> 00:39:45,670 I'm looking at here and as I'm trying to 907 00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:49,180 get up my whole bedroom is like the 908 00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:52,200 walls and there and the quilt cover a 909 00:39:57,980 --> 00:39:56,160 changing patterns like I remember 910 00:39:59,779 --> 00:39:57,990 and white stripes going across but 911 00:40:03,740 --> 00:39:59,789 whatever was on the walls it was on the 912 00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:03,750 bed cover as well then I remember black 913 00:40:07,579 --> 00:40:06,030 and white almost like zebra stripes and 914 00:40:11,390 --> 00:40:07,589 I knew exactly what that was because I'd 915 00:40:14,589 --> 00:40:11,400 painted it in the 90s I had a house with 916 00:40:17,870 --> 00:40:14,599 the fireplace 917 00:40:20,779 --> 00:40:17,880 you know the chimney I painted it all 918 00:40:24,770 --> 00:40:20,789 like a zebra just like a black and white 919 00:40:27,020 --> 00:40:24,780 really dramatic and it was that pattern 920 00:40:28,510 --> 00:40:27,030 that went across the room and and I kind 921 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:28,520 of think back and I thought I wonder 922 00:40:32,510 --> 00:40:30,690 because the pink and white strike was 923 00:40:35,450 --> 00:40:32,520 wallpaper that I had in the bedroom once 924 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:35,460 so I don't remember the rest of it but 925 00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:37,530 I've actually thought since I wonder if 926 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:39,569 it was like all of the bedrooms that had 927 00:40:49,819 --> 00:40:47,010 ever been in you know the deck are gone 928 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:49,829 and all this is flashing around the room 929 00:40:54,770 --> 00:40:50,970 you know all these different patterns 930 00:40:59,059 --> 00:40:54,780 and I don't thinking he's got a silver 931 00:40:59,839 --> 00:40:59,069 suit on and a helmet like yeah that's 932 00:41:03,109 --> 00:40:59,849 ridiculous 933 00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:03,119 yes no one's gonna believe this how 934 00:41:08,180 --> 00:41:06,240 stupid and it just turned that's what 935 00:41:11,660 --> 00:41:08,190 they want and I'll tell you something as 936 00:41:13,460 --> 00:41:11,670 well is that you know we've been led to 937 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:13,470 believe that they are physical in nature 938 00:41:18,650 --> 00:41:16,650 I'm not doubting that but one of the 939 00:41:21,710 --> 00:41:18,660 interesting things is that I've spoke to 940 00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:21,720 research Earl Grey al gray Anderson and 941 00:41:26,359 --> 00:41:24,240 also Paul Sinclair we've been talking 942 00:41:28,250 --> 00:41:26,369 about this light now that many people 943 00:41:31,339 --> 00:41:28,260 see this light and the light sometimes 944 00:41:34,450 --> 00:41:31,349 changes and we believe that the Grays 945 00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:34,460 utilize this light as a way of basically 946 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:38,910 creating some type of anaesthetic so 947 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:40,890 that the vigil can't move they're sort 948 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:43,170 of consciously aware but they can't move 949 00:41:46,670 --> 00:41:44,730 and other people around them are knocked 950 00:41:50,750 --> 00:41:46,680 out even if their life speed their light 951 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:50,760 sleepers now the Grays also will use 952 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:54,170 your mind to screw things up basically 953 00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:56,490 they'll be able to they'll be able to go 954 00:42:01,039 --> 00:41:58,400 through your mind to find things that 955 00:42:03,260 --> 00:42:01,049 they can utilize to try and make it look 956 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:03,270 like you know you're you're having a bad 957 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:05,130 nightmare but really actually they're 958 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:07,770 here now they also are inter dimensional 959 00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:09,970 in nature because they're able to open 960 00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:12,040 portals that is an incredible feat that 961 00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:15,520 my argument is the fact you said Sasha 962 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:18,160 and I I have heard of of your your 963 00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:20,170 experience before with regards to the 964 00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:21,910 Power Ranger which is very unique no 965 00:42:28,230 --> 00:42:24,190 different from the small motorcyclists 966 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:28,240 that I saw the thin one is that as they 967 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:30,250 come in they have to be present around 968 00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:32,290 you know if they had this technology 969 00:42:36,570 --> 00:42:34,480 where like on Star Trek they that could 970 00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:36,580 beam you up why not do it but for some 971 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:38,560 reason the Grays have to be in very 972 00:42:43,650 --> 00:42:41,170 close proximity to you as the individual 973 00:42:52,290 --> 00:42:43,660 because they need to make some kind of 974 00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:52,300 conscious connection with you was coming 975 00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:55,599 from and it was the sheer volume of the 976 00:43:01,470 --> 00:42:58,960 energy coming from it was causing that 977 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:01,480 that was my reaction to that frequency 978 00:43:08,730 --> 00:43:06,010 so yeah and also a lot of the times that 979 00:43:12,930 --> 00:43:08,740 we discovered is that when someone has 980 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:12,940 had a UFO stroke alien experience it 981 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:16,570 normally is centered around you know an 982 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:18,250 individual as yourself who is very 983 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:20,890 psychic who is I'm not saying that with 984 00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:23,410 nearly with all of what we call 985 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:25,990 abductees or experiencers but certainly 986 00:43:30,450 --> 00:43:28,690 a lot of people not to the point where 987 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:30,460 all they can speak to the dead or do 988 00:43:34,140 --> 00:43:32,290 this all do that but people who are 989 00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:34,150 generally quite different from you know 990 00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:35,680 a lot of the other folks who just go 991 00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:37,359 about their business and they're happy 992 00:43:41,790 --> 00:43:40,089 with their lives but the event when the 993 00:43:43,740 --> 00:43:41,800 UFO experience has happened 994 00:43:45,420 --> 00:43:43,750 normally I believe what the Grays are 995 00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:45,430 doing is that they're ripping open a 996 00:43:51,150 --> 00:43:48,310 dimensional portal that can become 997 00:43:54,359 --> 00:43:51,160 unstable after a short period of time so 998 00:43:56,270 --> 00:43:54,369 when they move you towards their their 999 00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:56,280 vibrational frequency or 1000 00:44:01,620 --> 00:43:58,530 inter-dimensionally into their domain 1001 00:44:04,530 --> 00:44:01,630 time most people can't remember what's 1002 00:44:07,020 --> 00:44:04,540 happened simply because the brain has 1003 00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:07,030 been taking out of its normal physical 1004 00:44:11,849 --> 00:44:10,240 processing of time the Grays don't help 1005 00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:11,859 either because they know this and 1006 00:44:17,099 --> 00:44:13,510 they're able to kind of like stuff a 1007 00:44:18,510 --> 00:44:17,109 load of images in your head to try and 1008 00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:18,520 mix the experience up so you won't 1009 00:44:23,549 --> 00:44:21,359 remember it but also the the very 1010 00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:23,559 careful poor 1011 00:44:27,089 --> 00:44:25,569 they've opened the very delicate portal 1012 00:44:28,769 --> 00:44:27,099 they've opened in order to get you into 1013 00:44:31,289 --> 00:44:28,779 their realm or bring you into their 1014 00:44:33,299 --> 00:44:31,299 vibrational frequency that can become 1015 00:44:35,699 --> 00:44:33,309 unstable and this might explain why 1016 00:44:38,819 --> 00:44:35,709 after you have experienced that there is 1017 00:44:42,809 --> 00:44:38,829 a lot of paranormal activity that's the 1018 00:44:44,849 --> 00:44:42,819 opening itself and become unstable that 1019 00:44:51,209 --> 00:44:44,859 one thing that I think we have to take 1020 00:44:58,349 --> 00:44:51,219 as a possibility house that I was in was 1021 00:44:59,999 --> 00:44:58,359 actually haunted absolutely crazy place 1022 00:45:05,209 --> 00:45:00,009 Oh Andy don't running away from Kristen 1023 00:45:09,620 --> 00:45:05,219 we we just was terrified but this sir 1024 00:45:13,289 --> 00:45:09,630 they the gray in the doorway it told me 1025 00:45:17,099 --> 00:45:13,299 why it was wearing the suit and why it 1026 00:45:20,279 --> 00:45:17,109 was wearing the hell man oh my god eight 1027 00:45:24,319 --> 00:45:20,289 it was like a bump it was like a warm 1028 00:45:28,709 --> 00:45:24,329 bump in my brain and then I kind of just 1029 00:45:33,209 --> 00:45:28,719 came to understand why it was wearing it 1030 00:45:37,259 --> 00:45:33,219 and it so like a dark gray metal 1031 00:45:39,029 --> 00:45:37,269 material that's soft and it has these 1032 00:45:40,799 --> 00:45:39,039 silver threads running through it now I 1033 00:45:43,259 --> 00:45:40,809 don't know that it is silver the 1034 00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:43,269 material itself but that was the color 1035 00:45:47,370 --> 00:45:45,849 of it very fine threads now if you 1036 00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:47,380 remember our set see the light was 1037 00:45:52,049 --> 00:45:50,319 behind it so I couldn't see this 1038 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:52,059 properly because it was all in shadow 1039 00:45:58,499 --> 00:45:53,890 when it turned and looked at me I saw 1040 00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:58,509 how how long and you know that they the 1041 00:46:03,150 --> 00:46:01,119 clear bit of the visor was in the helmet 1042 00:46:07,939 --> 00:46:03,160 and how long the point was that kinda 1043 00:46:11,579 --> 00:46:07,949 came to mid-chest the helmet itself so 1044 00:46:16,799 --> 00:46:11,589 how I saw these details I don't know it 1045 00:46:18,959 --> 00:46:16,809 was like I could see the material close 1046 00:46:24,469 --> 00:46:18,969 up add a belt as well which I found 1047 00:46:26,999 --> 00:46:24,479 totally ridiculous then but what the 1048 00:46:30,929 --> 00:46:27,009 material does is it scatters like it 1049 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:30,939 scatters photons I think that's how they 1050 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:33,450 make themselves vanished 1051 00:46:37,940 --> 00:46:35,490 you know become invisible but they're 1052 00:46:40,010 --> 00:46:37,950 not invisible they're they're just 1053 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:40,020 scattered the light around them yeah 1054 00:46:46,670 --> 00:46:44,490 also it also stops any kind of heat any 1055 00:46:49,339 --> 00:46:46,680 thermal detector so there was no change 1056 00:46:50,930 --> 00:46:49,349 in temperature it would automatically 1057 00:46:54,170 --> 00:46:50,940 reflect the temperature of the space 1058 00:46:57,890 --> 00:46:54,180 that it's in and it protects them from 1059 00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:57,900 light because we have all these gadgets 1060 00:47:05,900 --> 00:47:01,200 and they're dangerous to them what I 1061 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:05,910 what it's gave to me was blu-ray you 1062 00:47:11,180 --> 00:47:08,970 know the blu-ray discs you know 1063 00:47:14,930 --> 00:47:11,190 Playstations of the blu-ray in there 1064 00:47:17,390 --> 00:47:14,940 it's blue light particularly the damages 1065 00:47:21,140 --> 00:47:17,400 their internal organs of their internal 1066 00:47:22,609 --> 00:47:21,150 mechanism I can't say organs because I 1067 00:47:24,799 --> 00:47:22,619 don't know that they have organs but I 1068 00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:24,809 just know it was saying all the 1069 00:47:32,660 --> 00:47:27,599 information was it damages them 1070 00:47:36,849 --> 00:47:32,670 internally so the light is important the 1071 00:47:39,799 --> 00:47:36,859 helmet was because the air is toxic and 1072 00:47:42,859 --> 00:47:39,809 there are frequencies that are being 1073 00:47:45,079 --> 00:47:42,869 emitted that actually disrupt their 1074 00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:45,089 mental patterns and with their hive 1075 00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:49,440 minds but also they have this ability to 1076 00:47:53,450 --> 00:47:51,359 be able to hear everything that's going 1077 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:53,460 on wherever it's going on around them 1078 00:48:00,620 --> 00:47:56,930 and know what's going on the rather than 1079 00:48:03,380 --> 00:48:00,630 360 degrees now for that information I 1080 00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:03,390 have to default in my friend Paula who 1081 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:05,730 had an experience with the Grays who was 1082 00:48:10,940 --> 00:48:07,890 wearing she cause it was Danny did the 1083 00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:10,950 Danny DeVito alien because it was kind 1084 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:12,480 of like trying to make himself look like 1085 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:14,130 a human and it just ended up look like a 1086 00:48:23,660 --> 00:48:20,010 really weird lumpy you know shot that 1087 00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:23,670 handed her this jelly stuff she looked a 1088 00:48:28,910 --> 00:48:25,920 bit like a jellyfish she felt that like 1089 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:28,920 a jellyfish and he told her to put it to 1090 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:32,970 her face so she did and as soon as she 1091 00:48:36,740 --> 00:48:34,410 got it to be a couple of inches away 1092 00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:36,750 from her face it came to life and so 1093 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:38,880 could suction done to her eyes and 1094 00:48:46,420 --> 00:48:43,690 around her face from that point on 1095 00:48:47,890 --> 00:48:46,430 she could hear everything that was going 1096 00:48:49,690 --> 00:48:47,900 on with all these people that were only 1097 00:48:52,750 --> 00:48:49,700 like it was like their work she was in 1098 00:48:55,410 --> 00:48:52,760 she said she was in America uh in a 1099 00:48:58,060 --> 00:48:55,420 scene set up to look like America and 1100 00:48:59,230 --> 00:48:58,070 there was all the tall buildings there 1101 00:49:01,630 --> 00:48:59,240 were groups of people that were all 1102 00:49:04,060 --> 00:49:01,640 talking around her I think that was to 1103 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:04,070 demonstrate that she could hear every 1104 00:49:06,940 --> 00:49:05,450 single conversation understand 1105 00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:06,950 everything that was going on with every 1106 00:49:14,410 --> 00:49:10,720 single person around her many just knew 1107 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:14,420 and then they told her that the eyes and 1108 00:49:19,690 --> 00:49:17,690 this substance they put on this thing 1109 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:19,700 that she put on the face what it does is 1110 00:49:24,820 --> 00:49:21,530 it filters the light because we live in 1111 00:49:27,580 --> 00:49:24,830 black light blue light damages their 1112 00:49:29,890 --> 00:49:27,590 internal ovens but black light I don't 1113 00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:29,900 know damages their eyes or they can't 1114 00:49:35,860 --> 00:49:31,520 see because everything's too bright 1115 00:49:38,860 --> 00:49:35,870 these this thing that changes the way 1116 00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:38,870 that their eyes function so that they 1117 00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:43,250 can see in our reality because we live 1118 00:49:50,110 --> 00:49:45,200 in the dark we're not only not in the 1119 00:49:53,140 --> 00:49:50,120 dark when the Sun shines on us it's all 1120 00:49:54,940 --> 00:49:53,150 about the light yeah and it's it reminds 1121 00:49:57,100 --> 00:49:54,950 me when you were we were telling me this 1122 00:49:59,140 --> 00:49:57,110 incredible information that you know the 1123 00:50:01,540 --> 00:49:59,150 guy who created those special suits to 1124 00:50:07,980 --> 00:50:01,550 go into the water to try and deflect the 1125 00:50:12,790 --> 00:50:11,350 credible I know but I don't know about 1126 00:50:14,050 --> 00:50:12,800 the gloves all the shoes or anything 1127 00:50:17,020 --> 00:50:14,060 like that because I didn't even notice 1128 00:50:20,170 --> 00:50:17,030 them I was just caught up in this 1129 00:50:22,060 --> 00:50:20,180 experience and it's kind of distracting 1130 00:50:24,910 --> 00:50:22,070 as well because I always found myself 1131 00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:24,920 I'm still laying there but I'm thinking 1132 00:50:32,620 --> 00:50:29,870 about what is put in my head yeah I mean 1133 00:50:35,170 --> 00:50:32,630 and then I could hear music and it was 1134 00:50:36,910 --> 00:50:35,180 like modern music and it was like party 1135 00:50:39,070 --> 00:50:36,920 music and I could hear people talking 1136 00:50:41,470 --> 00:50:39,080 there was a conversation somebody said 1137 00:50:44,290 --> 00:50:41,480 oh yeah we're having a baby and another 1138 00:50:46,900 --> 00:50:44,300 guy goes oh congratulations man you know 1139 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:46,910 like normal conversation and I've heard 1140 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:47,810 that before 1141 00:50:53,650 --> 00:50:51,410 party noise other object other abductees 1142 00:50:54,910 --> 00:50:53,660 of it is party noise people talking 1143 00:50:57,250 --> 00:50:54,920 music 1144 00:51:01,049 --> 00:50:57,260 you know so I don't know what that was 1145 00:51:04,750 --> 00:51:01,059 about really well there's some type of 1146 00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:04,760 making you all aware that they are able 1147 00:51:09,370 --> 00:51:07,609 to you know connect with every thought 1148 00:51:11,980 --> 00:51:09,380 everything that's going on around them 1149 00:51:14,530 --> 00:51:11,990 which is incredible I think to be honest 1150 00:51:16,990 --> 00:51:14,540 with you with regards to the experiences 1151 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:17,000 that you've had the greys themselves are 1152 00:51:22,930 --> 00:51:20,450 our masters at deception they're very 1153 00:51:25,780 --> 00:51:22,940 very clever but what's also interesting 1154 00:51:28,750 --> 00:51:25,790 is that they come in very a variety of 1155 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:28,760 forms the light is very interesting as 1156 00:51:34,210 --> 00:51:31,970 you said and that is really incredible I 1157 00:51:36,579 --> 00:51:34,220 certainly will think long and hard now 1158 00:51:38,589 --> 00:51:36,589 about the you know what you've told me 1159 00:51:39,970 --> 00:51:38,599 with regards to the light and I'm one of 1160 00:51:41,740 --> 00:51:39,980 these people who starts the mud over 1161 00:51:46,089 --> 00:51:41,750 things you know because I think every 1162 00:51:53,799 --> 00:51:46,099 single thing an aspect of experience is 1163 00:51:55,180 --> 00:51:53,809 very important yeah that would be it 1164 00:51:57,609 --> 00:51:55,190 that would be really interesting because 1165 00:52:00,970 --> 00:51:57,619 you know the likes of you and I am and 1166 00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:00,980 and you know hopefully and I know that 1167 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:02,960 you and I but over the other good and 1168 00:52:08,500 --> 00:52:06,410 honest researchers are after that truth 1169 00:52:10,750 --> 00:52:08,510 of what they are but they still elude us 1170 00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:10,760 and and you know even to this day that 1171 00:52:14,859 --> 00:52:12,710 they must have some type of interest 1172 00:52:18,250 --> 00:52:14,869 within the abductee and I believe that 1173 00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:18,260 and I do agree that they do come on 1174 00:52:22,089 --> 00:52:20,000 multiple occasions I don't think it's 1175 00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:22,099 just a one-off thing I think that there 1176 00:52:25,990 --> 00:52:24,319 is something that goes beyond the 1177 00:52:29,170 --> 00:52:26,000 physical nuts and bolts and perhaps 1178 00:52:32,380 --> 00:52:29,180 we're seeing something that has you know 1179 00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:32,390 connected with our our ancestors going 1180 00:52:36,339 --> 00:52:34,880 back into the past but you know what is 1181 00:52:38,170 --> 00:52:36,349 it what is what is it that they're 1182 00:52:47,020 --> 00:52:38,180 looking for this is this is the big 1183 00:52:50,620 --> 00:52:47,030 question what do they want so there's no 1184 00:52:52,839 --> 00:52:50,630 there's still take her so that the 1185 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:52,849 hybridization or the breeding program 1186 00:52:57,130 --> 00:52:54,770 thing is not the only thing that they 1187 00:53:00,430 --> 00:52:57,140 have going on but you know I think that 1188 00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:00,440 through my experiences in my life and 1189 00:53:03,870 --> 00:53:02,510 the people that I've spoken to that and 1190 00:53:06,059 --> 00:53:03,880 they were genuine 1191 00:53:10,769 --> 00:53:06,069 since a home at stages of development as 1192 00:53:12,509 --> 00:53:10,779 well so it's I think it's hormones have 1193 00:53:14,809 --> 00:53:12,519 got something to do with it because of 1194 00:53:17,069 --> 00:53:14,819 the ages that we all seem to have these 1195 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:17,079 experiences you know those of us that 1196 00:53:24,529 --> 00:53:19,450 remember they've you know from being 1197 00:53:27,539 --> 00:53:24,539 young there seems to be ages there 1198 00:53:29,759 --> 00:53:27,549 they're taken they forget then they 1199 00:53:30,990 --> 00:53:29,769 remember say like they'll forget all the 1200 00:53:35,359 --> 00:53:31,000 teenage stuff 1201 00:53:37,380 --> 00:53:35,369 then they'll remember when the 25 1202 00:53:39,690 --> 00:53:37,390 they've had this thing when they were a 1203 00:53:41,490 --> 00:53:39,700 kid you know and it all comes tumbling 1204 00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:41,500 back there's always some sort of between 1205 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:45,250 25 27 where people start having all 1206 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:49,890 these memories more experiences yes 1207 00:53:55,230 --> 00:53:52,210 absolutely and it's almost as if the 1208 00:53:58,019 --> 00:53:55,240 Grays themselves connect all the UFO 1209 00:54:00,210 --> 00:53:58,029 phenomena definitely seems to draw to 1210 00:54:02,849 --> 00:54:00,220 people who think outside the box were 1211 00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:02,859 very different and and this is what 1212 00:54:14,220 --> 00:54:11,920 we're trying to look at in terms of you 1213 00:54:16,170 --> 00:54:14,230 know a child that was extremely 1214 00:54:18,779 --> 00:54:16,180 telepathic when they were very young 1215 00:54:20,999 --> 00:54:18,789 it's kind of grown up now but I would 1216 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:21,009 and I know that that child was an 1217 00:54:28,589 --> 00:54:24,730 abductee so they use telepathy so I 1218 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:28,599 think it's almost second nature you know 1219 00:54:32,940 --> 00:54:30,970 it's second nature for some abductees 1220 00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:32,950 because they've been taken from being 1221 00:54:35,849 --> 00:54:35,049 children and the communication is 1222 00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:35,859 telepathic 1223 00:54:43,319 --> 00:54:41,049 so telepathy is a natural thing and they 1224 00:54:44,700 --> 00:54:43,329 know what you're thinking and freaking 1225 00:54:47,579 --> 00:54:44,710 people out because they're saying what 1226 00:54:50,970 --> 00:54:47,589 you thinking you know so that's been 1227 00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:50,980 something that has come up so I think 1228 00:54:58,890 --> 00:54:54,880 telepathy as well it's part of I think 1229 00:55:01,349 --> 00:54:58,900 the psychic ability is in that were just 1230 00:55:04,529 --> 00:55:01,359 tuning into people I am something that 1231 00:55:06,660 --> 00:55:04,539 we've done for a long time because that 1232 00:55:09,839 --> 00:55:06,670 has been triggered in our minds oh it's 1233 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:09,849 been used whereas we if we don't believe 1234 00:55:13,890 --> 00:55:11,890 in that kind of thing and families who 1235 00:55:15,069 --> 00:55:13,900 don't have the phenomena the brains 1236 00:55:17,799 --> 00:55:15,079 don't work in that way 1237 00:55:20,380 --> 00:55:17,809 have never been made - exactly and 1238 00:55:22,809 --> 00:55:20,390 you're absolutely right because the 1239 00:55:25,930 --> 00:55:22,819 phenomenon itself seems to draw - people 1240 00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:25,940 who are and I quote on quote very 1241 00:55:31,029 --> 00:55:28,609 respectfully we are different because we 1242 00:55:33,549 --> 00:55:31,039 seem to be growing outside of the box of 1243 00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:33,559 of this system that's maddening that 1244 00:55:38,979 --> 00:55:36,079 controls human thought of controls our 1245 00:55:41,259 --> 00:55:38,989 emotions that you know you do this do 1246 00:55:43,839 --> 00:55:41,269 that he taught this we taught that and 1247 00:55:47,380 --> 00:55:43,849 and yet there are those people who are 1248 00:55:50,289 --> 00:55:47,390 so out of that box and I and I do 1249 00:55:52,329 --> 00:55:50,299 believe the system that we serve is very 1250 00:55:55,059 --> 00:55:52,339 much aware of individuals like yourself 1251 00:55:56,499 --> 00:55:55,069 who probably have fouls on you and and 1252 00:55:59,140 --> 00:55:56,509 it's true I've heard this from other 1253 00:56:00,640 --> 00:55:59,150 higher sources it's no ego or anything 1254 00:56:03,309 --> 00:56:00,650 but I've heard this from other higher 1255 00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:03,319 sources that investigators researchers 1256 00:56:07,359 --> 00:56:05,359 experiences are tact they're kind of 1257 00:56:09,459 --> 00:56:07,369 like watched and they they're you know 1258 00:56:11,289 --> 00:56:09,469 that they're because they they we bolted 1259 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:11,299 we're getting outside of the hood 1260 00:56:15,009 --> 00:56:13,130 there's holding us together and I 1261 00:56:16,749 --> 00:56:15,019 believe the system must know a little 1262 00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:16,759 bit more about what's going on but maybe 1263 00:56:20,289 --> 00:56:18,079 can't control it 1264 00:56:35,650 --> 00:56:20,299 but they want to know what they know the 1265 00:56:39,370 --> 00:56:35,660 researchers know they want to know what 1266 00:56:42,459 --> 00:56:39,380 we know yes absolutely and it's like you 1267 00:56:44,319 --> 00:56:42,469 know this whole war on war you've got 1268 00:56:46,660 --> 00:56:44,329 the military you've got the government's 1269 00:56:49,630 --> 00:56:46,670 you've got a very few select people and 1270 00:56:52,089 --> 00:56:49,640 as we know dare I mention it but there 1271 00:56:54,339 --> 00:56:52,099 is a lot of darkness in this world at 1272 00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:54,349 the moment and I do believe that a lot 1273 00:57:02,339 --> 00:56:58,249 of people and high up people are very 1274 00:57:05,769 --> 00:57:02,349 much aware of you know professing to 1275 00:57:07,569 --> 00:57:05,779 worship a darker force now there has 1276 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:07,579 been also the argument of whether or not 1277 00:57:13,779 --> 00:57:09,650 we are dealing with genomic demonic 1278 00:57:16,719 --> 00:57:13,789 entities now I I would say no I'm not 1279 00:57:17,949 --> 00:57:16,729 saying that for every one of them but 1280 00:57:20,259 --> 00:57:17,959 what I'm saying is that there's a 1281 00:57:21,939 --> 00:57:20,269 delicate balance between good and bad 1282 00:57:24,249 --> 00:57:21,949 you have the same with humans you might 1283 00:57:26,259 --> 00:57:24,259 have it the same with the greys Cathleen 1284 00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:26,269 Martin Anissa Betty and Barney Hill they 1285 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:28,400 did make me laugh once when she said 1286 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:28,970 they 1287 00:57:32,620 --> 00:57:30,890 a rogue group of grades and I had this 1288 00:57:33,970 --> 00:57:32,630 scene in my head of these badass Grey's 1289 00:57:41,740 --> 00:57:33,980 going around kicking the crap out of 1290 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:41,750 everyone yeah so leave that you know 1291 00:57:48,370 --> 00:57:45,290 with regards to the abductee it is very 1292 00:57:50,530 --> 00:57:48,380 difficult for the experiencer to try to 1293 00:57:52,420 --> 00:57:50,540 come to terms with understanding this 1294 00:57:55,050 --> 00:57:52,430 but I believe that because we've been 1295 00:57:59,320 --> 00:57:55,060 equipped through our educational 1296 00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:59,330 programs that has you know bled us with 1297 00:58:03,700 --> 00:58:01,520 this rubbish about this is this and that 1298 00:58:05,620 --> 00:58:03,710 is that and when these experiences come 1299 00:58:07,420 --> 00:58:05,630 to you there's a part of your mind 1300 00:58:09,609 --> 00:58:07,430 that's fighting and rebelling saying 1301 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:09,619 well you know this is what happened and 1302 00:58:15,220 --> 00:58:12,770 I believe that after some time and you 1303 00:58:16,780 --> 00:58:15,230 seem to grow from the experience is no 1304 00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:16,790 different from someone who's gone 1305 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:20,240 through some real tragic event and later 1306 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:23,450 on in life it changes them you know so 1307 00:58:28,180 --> 00:58:25,730 so I believe that this change with us 1308 00:58:31,510 --> 00:58:28,190 through this experiences the greys or 1309 00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:31,520 whatever they are are coming in and they 1310 00:58:34,750 --> 00:58:34,160 can see that certain souls are very 1311 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:34,760 different 1312 00:58:39,970 --> 00:58:37,250 maybe the souls are much brighter than 1313 00:58:42,310 --> 00:58:39,980 others and they're interested in in 1314 00:58:45,820 --> 00:58:42,320 those souls for whatever reason we still 1315 00:58:48,910 --> 00:58:45,830 don't understand and I go I go back to 1316 00:58:52,030 --> 00:58:48,920 you know the the process of evolution 1317 00:58:53,500 --> 00:58:52,040 what makes me laugh and I know we could 1318 00:58:57,370 --> 00:58:53,510 argue about this until the cows come 1319 00:59:00,040 --> 00:58:57,380 home but one simple simple thing is the 1320 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:00,050 fact that everyone argues about how we 1321 00:59:06,220 --> 00:59:03,410 developed as a species coming from Homo 1322 00:59:07,540 --> 00:59:06,230 erectus to homo sapien and you know and 1323 00:59:10,030 --> 00:59:07,550 they're trying to find this missing link 1324 00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:10,040 and I can sit back and laugh thinking 1325 00:59:14,470 --> 00:59:11,839 you know what they will try it it's like 1326 00:59:16,859 --> 00:59:14,480 the EU really they will try it they can 1327 00:59:21,099 --> 00:59:16,869 to make something fit when it doesn't 1328 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:21,109 one of the main areas that that does 1329 00:59:25,870 --> 00:59:23,810 that is not postulated for some very 1330 00:59:28,990 --> 00:59:25,880 strange reason is the fact that we could 1331 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:29,000 have been fashioned and modified by an 1332 00:59:34,210 --> 00:59:31,730 extraterrestrial species through some 1333 00:59:38,170 --> 00:59:34,220 gene splicing and I've always believed 1334 00:59:40,690 --> 00:59:38,180 that we had been probably fashioned from 1335 00:59:42,790 --> 00:59:40,700 the ape that you know these beings saw 1336 00:59:45,610 --> 00:59:42,800 as the the most prospective suit 1337 00:59:49,390 --> 00:59:45,620 and brought part of us from there into 1338 00:59:52,620 --> 00:59:49,400 this from this planet so because if we 1339 00:59:55,180 --> 00:59:52,630 had been the the direct descendants of 1340 00:59:57,100 --> 00:59:55,190 through natural selection we wouldn't 1341 00:59:58,990 --> 00:59:57,110 have to shy from our very own Sun and 1342 01:00:01,780 --> 00:59:59,000 certainly with our bodies will be 1343 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:01,790 equipped we would have a secondary 1344 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:06,890 eyelid yes that's right but you see they 1345 01:00:12,340 --> 01:00:09,410 know one it's like the UFO phenomena the 1346 01:00:14,650 --> 01:00:12,350 abduction phenomena creation ilysm know 1347 01:00:17,530 --> 01:00:14,660 what these people are like no doubt 1348 01:00:19,450 --> 01:00:17,540 they're like their narrow tunnel vision 1349 01:00:21,550 --> 01:00:19,460 sorry they're going down that narrow 1350 01:00:23,470 --> 01:00:21,560 road I can't see it doesn't exist yet 1351 01:00:27,940 --> 01:00:23,480 the phenomena is growing it's becoming 1352 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:27,950 more prevalent with regards to people 1353 01:00:30,700 --> 01:00:29,210 around the world getting through these 1354 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:30,710 experiences and seeing more and more 1355 01:00:48,790 --> 01:00:45,890 UFOs years ago take photographs of the 1356 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:48,800 farthest reaches of space and you know 1357 01:00:56,860 --> 01:00:54,650 the the kind of artists yes yes so the 1358 01:00:59,440 --> 01:00:56,870 system that we live in that we were you 1359 01:01:02,170 --> 01:00:59,450 know every time we're being talked about 1360 01:01:04,750 --> 01:01:02,180 all we see a model of the solar system 1361 01:01:07,180 --> 01:01:04,760 it's a very Placid looking place it's a 1362 01:01:09,130 --> 01:01:07,190 Suns in the middle all the planets are 1363 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:09,140 all out on these rings that go around 1364 01:01:14,410 --> 01:01:12,650 and it's all flat and it's all Placid 1365 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:14,420 but when you actually see what's going 1366 01:01:18,550 --> 01:01:16,610 on it's like holy hell spit it's like 1367 01:01:20,170 --> 01:01:18,560 the best roller coaster you know 1368 01:01:22,630 --> 01:01:20,180 fairground ride that you could ever have 1369 01:01:24,310 --> 01:01:22,640 you know you've got a staff hurtling 1370 01:01:25,780 --> 01:01:24,320 through space it's going forwards and 1371 01:01:28,690 --> 01:01:25,790 we're are whipping around this thing 1372 01:01:31,330 --> 01:01:28,700 like you know in this really crazy crazy 1373 01:01:32,890 --> 01:01:31,340 right manner and I looked at that and I 1374 01:01:35,740 --> 01:01:32,900 just start what are we 1375 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:35,750 no man were aliens what the hell are we 1376 01:01:40,330 --> 01:01:38,090 we live there that's ridiculous 1377 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:40,340 what his space was you know when when 1378 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:43,370 the UFO experienced in 1997 it was so 1379 01:01:48,940 --> 01:01:46,610 close sir up from and in your face that 1380 01:01:51,130 --> 01:01:48,950 he took the lid off my life so from the 1381 01:01:53,020 --> 01:01:51,140 top of my head there's nothing out into 1382 01:01:55,420 --> 01:01:53,030 those big columns of dust that you see 1383 01:01:57,700 --> 01:01:55,430 in the pictures from Hubble right 1384 01:02:03,400 --> 01:01:57,710 that my head is connected to that with 1385 01:02:05,589 --> 01:02:03,410 space you know you feel your actual size 1386 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:05,599 which is very very small in the scheme 1387 01:02:12,730 --> 01:02:10,250 of things so you know like that just 1388 01:02:15,549 --> 01:02:12,740 completely changed my perspective on 1389 01:02:17,710 --> 01:02:15,559 everything and I started to wonder what 1390 01:02:20,230 --> 01:02:17,720 we were and all these people saying 1391 01:02:23,620 --> 01:02:20,240 about things that are impossible and if 1392 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:23,630 you explained our actual reality our 1393 01:02:30,460 --> 01:02:28,130 physical actuality as as it is to people 1394 01:02:32,589 --> 01:02:30,470 300 years ago they would have thought 1395 01:02:34,809 --> 01:02:32,599 you were an absolutely insane person 1396 01:02:36,790 --> 01:02:34,819 because you know if you've been thrown 1397 01:02:38,230 --> 01:02:36,800 around like that in space then we would 1398 01:02:41,559 --> 01:02:38,240 know we'd feel it how hair would be 1399 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:41,569 flying around all over the place falling 1400 01:02:47,650 --> 01:02:44,210 off the table all the time you know but 1401 01:02:49,420 --> 01:02:47,660 you know it would be ludicrous and it is 1402 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:49,430 ludicrous when you look at it so I just 1403 01:02:54,309 --> 01:02:51,890 think well you know Ellen musk saying 1404 01:02:56,470 --> 01:02:54,319 well I think we live in a simulation and 1405 01:02:59,039 --> 01:02:56,480 your next breath it says no there are no 1406 01:03:01,270 --> 01:02:59,049 aliens if there were any aliens I'd know 1407 01:03:12,700 --> 01:03:01,280 so who does he think showing the 1408 01:03:14,799 --> 01:03:12,710 simulation on space I mean you're 1409 01:03:18,039 --> 01:03:14,809 absolutely correct Sasha you know 1410 01:03:20,020 --> 01:03:18,049 totally you're on my level completely I 1411 01:03:21,789 --> 01:03:20,030 mean when I was a kid I remembered I 1412 01:03:24,099 --> 01:03:21,799 grabbed a chair when the teachers said 1413 01:03:26,349 --> 01:03:24,109 that we lived on a planet and I thought 1414 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:26,359 the earth was flat and went on forever I 1415 01:03:31,630 --> 01:03:29,210 had this idea now when you go out into 1416 01:03:33,460 --> 01:03:31,640 space it gets even more scary because I 1417 01:03:36,430 --> 01:03:33,470 was asking questions when I was a kid 1418 01:03:38,170 --> 01:03:36,440 very much like you had been with the end 1419 01:03:39,940 --> 01:03:38,180 of the universe where's the end of it 1420 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:39,950 and it's like you know well what's first 1421 01:03:43,420 --> 01:03:41,690 the chicken of the egg and then you get 1422 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:43,430 into the Big Bang hypothesis but now 1423 01:03:45,609 --> 01:03:44,690 what we're discovering you're absolutely 1424 01:03:48,579 --> 01:03:45,619 right 1425 01:03:50,319 --> 01:03:48,589 going into the quantum of reality we're 1426 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:50,329 looking at interdimensional matter and 1427 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:52,490 and this is this is something that's 1428 01:03:56,140 --> 01:03:54,170 very interesting because you know 1429 01:03:59,230 --> 01:03:56,150 certain research has speculated as to 1430 01:04:02,620 --> 01:03:59,240 whether or not the UFOs themselves can 1431 01:04:04,450 --> 01:04:02,630 bend or warp space-time item but also 1432 01:04:06,190 --> 01:04:04,460 the intervention interdimensional 1433 01:04:09,230 --> 01:04:06,200 hypothesis is very interesting because 1434 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:09,240 that means that we may be seeing layers 1435 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:11,130 to the universe that one we both took 1436 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:13,050 one we're going into another and another 1437 01:04:24,260 --> 01:04:20,850 and it goes on forever the layers of the 1438 01:04:27,190 --> 01:04:24,270 frequency yeah and I think I think 1439 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:27,200 everything in life is probably like that 1440 01:04:30,530 --> 01:04:30,090 from the micro to the macro like it 1441 01:04:33,410 --> 01:04:30,540 layers 1442 01:04:34,940 --> 01:04:33,420 well that would if I went too deep into 1443 01:04:36,290 --> 01:04:34,950 that I would definitely end up in a 1444 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:36,300 psychiatric ward 1445 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:40,530 oh no register with all of that we have 1446 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:43,650 the general idea that the fact is that 1447 01:04:49,609 --> 01:04:47,250 we are being visited by intelligences 1448 01:04:51,500 --> 01:04:49,619 that are not from this world whether or 1449 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:51,510 not they are from another planet or they 1450 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:53,730 are from another lower dimensional 1451 01:04:58,190 --> 01:04:56,490 frequency or a higher frequency we're 1452 01:05:00,800 --> 01:04:58,200 not sure but one of the things that we 1453 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:00,810 are absolutely certain about taking away 1454 01:05:05,210 --> 01:05:02,850 all the disinformation their lives and 1455 01:05:07,070 --> 01:05:05,220 the fakery is that you know we are 1456 01:05:09,050 --> 01:05:07,080 dealing with a real phenomenon and 1457 01:05:11,390 --> 01:05:09,060 you're absolutely right sir sure you're 1458 01:05:14,570 --> 01:05:11,400 correct we have come in leaps and bounds 1459 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:14,580 now through our kkona like more of an 1460 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:16,170 understanding of what we're dealing with 1461 01:05:21,020 --> 01:05:18,210 because before it was very much the nuts 1462 01:05:23,270 --> 01:05:21,030 and bolts aspect you know now we're 1463 01:05:26,540 --> 01:05:23,280 starting to or the greys have given 1464 01:05:28,010 --> 01:05:26,550 signs that you know some of them come on 1465 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:28,020 a physical level and some of them come 1466 01:05:33,260 --> 01:05:30,330 on a non-physical level and you know 1467 01:05:35,390 --> 01:05:33,270 some of them send this light in and you 1468 01:05:37,730 --> 01:05:35,400 know the light as you've quite correctly 1469 01:05:39,140 --> 01:05:37,740 stated is very important to researchers 1470 01:05:40,940 --> 01:05:39,150 at the moment because that's an area 1471 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:40,950 they're looking into because light 1472 01:05:53,750 --> 01:05:49,890 carries information now I had an 1473 01:05:56,140 --> 01:05:53,760 experience in 2007 with the reptilians 1474 01:05:58,880 --> 01:05:56,150 insect at the end of September actually 1475 01:06:03,050 --> 01:05:58,890 we've just gone past the anniversary of 1476 01:06:06,910 --> 01:06:03,060 it and on the 4th of October I had 1477 01:06:11,109 --> 01:06:06,920 another experience so that's tomorrow 1478 01:06:14,900 --> 01:06:11,119 right and what it was was I woke up and 1479 01:06:16,130 --> 01:06:14,910 I noticed that I had my legs and my arms 1480 01:06:17,660 --> 01:06:16,140 in the air and I laughed at myself 1481 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:17,670 because I thought I was acting out some 1482 01:06:23,980 --> 01:06:20,450 crazy kind of dream you know 1483 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:23,990 like oh you doing you idiot you know so 1484 01:06:28,930 --> 01:06:27,530 I want kind of you know the automatic 1485 01:06:31,329 --> 01:06:28,940 thing to put your arms and legs down but 1486 01:06:34,030 --> 01:06:31,339 I couldn't feel my body at all and then 1487 01:06:36,790 --> 01:06:34,040 I notice like you saying far you know 1488 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:36,800 the gray mist this all kind of steamy 1489 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:38,810 you can't quite see anything it's very 1490 01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:41,450 very dark she's getting a vague outline 1491 01:06:46,900 --> 01:06:44,720 it's like shadows of light not shadows 1492 01:06:48,819 --> 01:06:46,910 of darks like something's reflecting or 1493 01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:48,829 something just a little bit it's just 1494 01:06:58,660 --> 01:06:52,480 like this tall weird-looking figure in 1495 01:07:02,579 --> 01:06:58,670 between my feet so I said put the light 1496 01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:02,589 on thinking if they put the light on 1497 01:07:08,620 --> 01:07:05,089 I'll be able to move I'll snap out of 1498 01:07:09,670 --> 01:07:08,630 this funk that I've got myself in it did 1499 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:09,680 occur to me that there shouldn't have 1500 01:07:13,990 --> 01:07:12,050 been anybody in my bedroom and didn't 1501 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:14,000 care to me that there's an orange light 1502 01:07:20,170 --> 01:07:17,450 outside my bedroom where's that gone and 1503 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:20,180 that's stuff and I just kept saying put 1504 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:22,010 the light on put the light on and then 1505 01:07:27,790 --> 01:07:25,490 my head sort of flock to the right and I 1506 01:07:30,849 --> 01:07:27,800 noticed that I had a green dot of light 1507 01:07:33,130 --> 01:07:30,859 in the crook of my elbow and then my 1508 01:07:35,319 --> 01:07:33,140 eyes I remember my eyes closing and 1509 01:07:43,569 --> 01:07:35,329 that's the end of it so that was fourth 1510 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:43,579 of October 2007 then in August 2011 I 1511 01:07:53,109 --> 01:07:48,770 went to Leeds Excel politics conference 1512 01:07:55,450 --> 01:07:53,119 and this woman called Sonya was speaking 1513 01:07:59,170 --> 01:07:55,460 now I've been talking to her for years 1514 01:08:01,420 --> 01:07:59,180 and I went to meet her and I've got to 1515 01:08:04,690 --> 01:08:01,430 the University such a never listening to 1516 01:08:06,309 --> 01:08:04,700 a talk and you know we talked on the 1517 01:08:08,890 --> 01:08:06,319 phone and she'd said this stuff before 1518 01:08:10,540 --> 01:08:08,900 and were like you know just shine about 1519 01:08:12,130 --> 01:08:10,550 what it's like you know you fears all 1520 01:08:13,839 --> 01:08:12,140 the silly little things we talked a lot 1521 01:08:16,180 --> 01:08:13,849 about that and just got to know each 1522 01:08:18,610 --> 01:08:16,190 other so what she'd said about the 1523 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:18,620 lasers didn't really hit home until I'm 1524 01:08:25,959 --> 01:08:22,250 seeing this drawing in front of me where 1525 01:08:28,269 --> 01:08:25,969 she's saying that she's on this table or 1526 01:08:30,610 --> 01:08:28,279 bed and she's got a legs in the air and 1527 01:08:32,499 --> 01:08:30,620 there's green lasers all over the place 1528 01:08:37,269 --> 01:08:32,509 and 1529 01:08:39,820 --> 01:08:37,279 oh I've seen green lasers so that day I 1530 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:39,830 went home and I got on the internet and 1531 01:08:44,430 --> 01:08:42,170 I'm thinking right green light green 1532 01:08:47,650 --> 01:08:44,440 light green like what would it be like 1533 01:08:49,930 --> 01:08:47,660 Medical okay green light medical use 1534 01:08:53,559 --> 01:08:49,940 that's what attacks him into a Google 1535 01:08:57,700 --> 01:08:53,569 search it came up in the previous May in 1536 01:09:00,729 --> 01:08:57,710 2011 they'd use they've approved green 1537 01:09:05,559 --> 01:09:00,739 light therapy for pelvic health in women 1538 01:09:09,309 --> 01:09:05,569 and prostate health in men boom that is 1539 01:09:12,579 --> 01:09:09,319 what the probe is Wow lean light it 1540 01:09:14,079 --> 01:09:12,589 reset something and there and the pelvic 1541 01:09:16,090 --> 01:09:14,089 health I've got my legs in there she's 1542 01:09:19,019 --> 01:09:16,100 got a legs in the air this green light 1543 01:09:20,860 --> 01:09:19,029 pelvic health in women it was just like 1544 01:09:22,269 --> 01:09:20,870 whoa okay 1545 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:22,279 I wonder sort something about what 1546 01:09:26,349 --> 01:09:24,650 they're doing is that whatever they're 1547 01:09:29,829 --> 01:09:26,359 doing I don't know I'm not saying that 1548 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:29,839 I'm part of any projects with babies or 1549 01:09:34,380 --> 01:09:31,489 anything like I have literally zero 1550 01:09:44,260 --> 01:09:34,390 recollection it's just one instance and 1551 01:09:45,670 --> 01:09:44,270 it was the Green Line I can't I probably 1552 01:09:49,150 --> 01:09:45,680 take me two hours to explain what I 1553 01:09:49,690 --> 01:09:49,160 understood so we will do that another 1554 01:09:58,540 --> 01:09:49,700 time 1555 01:10:01,750 --> 01:09:58,550 but yeah yeah healing for cleansing or 1556 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:01,760 for making sure the frequencies of 1557 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:05,090 things don't change or do change if the 1558 01:10:10,930 --> 01:10:08,210 frequency is off say like in the sperm 1559 01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:10,940 so it resets the cells frequencies it's 1560 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:14,330 so it's you know oh he's healthy and 1561 01:10:22,900 --> 01:10:20,570 then say the over healthy or whatever 1562 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:22,910 you know we we have lots of toxins were 1563 01:10:26,890 --> 01:10:25,250 exposed to lots of toxins in the air 1564 01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:26,900 just walking around we sprayed them 1565 01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:28,400 around our living room we put them in 1566 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:31,520 our washing machine you know so wonder 1567 01:10:35,620 --> 01:10:33,170 because we absorb these things through 1568 01:10:38,170 --> 01:10:35,630 our skin Wow well that certainly is 1569 01:10:41,459 --> 01:10:38,180 something that I you know good Lord sash 1570 01:10:43,950 --> 01:10:41,469 I mean tell your dad to talk to you 1571 01:10:46,470 --> 01:10:43,960 yeah blind I never do know I never 1572 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:46,480 thought about that but I I really under 1573 01:10:51,090 --> 01:10:48,370 I think you're absolutely correct I 1574 01:10:53,700 --> 01:10:51,100 think you know as a species we are not 1575 01:10:55,500 --> 01:10:53,710 helping ourselves and certainly we may 1576 01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:55,510 be in danger of destroying ourselves and 1577 01:10:59,610 --> 01:10:57,250 there is also the question of whether or 1578 01:11:02,100 --> 01:10:59,620 not the greys are salvaging what they 1579 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:02,110 can before you know I'm not a doomsday 1580 01:11:07,729 --> 01:11:04,930 person but I mean things that happen but 1581 01:11:09,660 --> 01:11:07,739 also something interesting you just 1582 01:11:12,030 --> 01:11:09,670 reminded me of something when I was 1583 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:12,040 coming back from Arizona from the UFO 1584 01:11:18,090 --> 01:11:15,449 conference over there some years ago now 1585 01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:18,100 you know I remembered I was on the plane 1586 01:11:22,050 --> 01:11:19,840 and you know sometimes do you ever get 1587 01:11:24,060 --> 01:11:22,060 those experiences where you look at 1588 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:24,070 something it could be anything that you 1589 01:11:28,770 --> 01:11:25,690 think is random and all of a sudden it 1590 01:11:30,270 --> 01:11:28,780 seems to strike a chord or a memory of 1591 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:30,280 something else do you ever get that 1592 01:11:36,060 --> 01:11:34,210 sometimes I yeah so I I get that quite a 1593 01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:36,070 lot and sometimes the imagery that you 1594 01:11:41,820 --> 01:11:39,040 get beyond the of what beyond what 1595 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:41,830 you're looking at seems to remind you of 1596 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:43,810 something or there's something person 1597 01:11:47,700 --> 01:11:45,250 it's not just you know oh it's a figment 1598 01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:47,710 of my imagination there's a deep core 1599 01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:50,170 part that pulls you towards it now I saw 1600 01:11:54,450 --> 01:11:52,690 the greys and when I was on the plane I 1601 01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:54,460 didn't see the greys there but I saw the 1602 01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:56,320 grace within the triggering of the 1603 01:12:00,390 --> 01:11:58,210 memory of seeing the top part of where 1604 01:12:02,010 --> 01:12:00,400 the luggage compartment goes in and I 1605 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:02,020 had this impression that the greys are 1606 01:12:08,610 --> 01:12:05,890 very very very old and there is also the 1607 01:12:11,820 --> 01:12:08,620 other suggestion that we have to look at 1608 01:12:14,939 --> 01:12:11,830 are they are creators where they you 1609 01:12:17,729 --> 01:12:14,949 know guardians of us that are still you 1610 01:12:21,420 --> 01:12:17,739 know looking out for us now most people 1611 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:21,430 will reject a lot of the hypotheses that 1612 01:12:25,650 --> 01:12:23,770 are brought to the table but I 1613 01:12:28,110 --> 01:12:25,660 understand that you know in the new book 1614 01:12:30,540 --> 01:12:28,120 that I'm working on I'm trying to take 1615 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:30,550 each aspect and angle that may fit in 1616 01:12:34,260 --> 01:12:32,530 with a particular person's belief 1617 01:12:35,790 --> 01:12:34,270 systems because I think it's important 1618 01:12:38,250 --> 01:12:35,800 to look at the whole as opposed to a 1619 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:38,260 part there are there are the theories 1620 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:40,090 there could be our creators there is a 1621 01:12:43,709 --> 01:12:41,530 theory that they are just out for 1622 01:12:45,810 --> 01:12:43,719 themselves which I think more I'm 1623 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:45,820 inclined to believe though there's 1624 01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:47,410 suggestion that they're trying to 1625 01:12:53,310 --> 01:12:49,600 salvage what they can before things go 1626 01:12:55,229 --> 01:12:53,320 you know all up in the air or they could 1627 01:12:57,660 --> 01:12:55,239 be demons the other thing is that you 1628 01:12:59,520 --> 01:12:57,670 we have a lot of these people I'm not 1629 01:13:02,550 --> 01:12:59,530 getting involved in religion here but 1630 01:13:04,380 --> 01:13:02,560 you know of the demonology aspect of a 1631 01:13:06,570 --> 01:13:04,390 lot of the elite people in the world are 1632 01:13:08,700 --> 01:13:06,580 using bad energy to bring in you know 1633 01:13:12,180 --> 01:13:08,710 these specters and we've heard this all 1634 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:12,190 about the G and now I'm not denouncing I 1635 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:13,930 do believe that there are dark elements 1636 01:13:18,930 --> 01:13:15,850 out there however I believe that the 1637 01:13:22,410 --> 01:13:18,940 greys themselves are far more advanced 1638 01:13:25,020 --> 01:13:22,420 they they don't seem to be connected 1639 01:13:28,950 --> 01:13:25,030 through my understanding of the world of 1640 01:13:31,650 --> 01:13:28,960 demonology that is not to say that you 1641 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:31,660 know that they you know we're all we're 1642 01:13:49,530 --> 01:13:33,370 all connected as a species on a soul 1643 01:13:50,729 --> 01:13:49,540 level different energies and I do some 1644 01:13:53,190 --> 01:13:50,739 of these things have actually been 1645 01:13:55,530 --> 01:13:53,200 created by us because whether we know it 1646 01:13:59,100 --> 01:13:55,540 or not or accept it or not we kick off a 1647 01:14:00,840 --> 01:13:59,110 lot of energy its thought energy is you 1648 01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:00,850 know our physical energy it's our 1649 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:03,730 emotional energy and if you are like a 1650 01:14:08,490 --> 01:14:05,770 powerhouse or you are repressing 1651 01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:08,500 something and this is spiking out of you 1652 01:14:15,620 --> 01:14:11,440 then these things that can be manifested 1653 01:14:18,959 --> 01:14:15,630 into something else it becomes like not 1654 01:14:21,060 --> 01:14:18,969 necessarily conscious but the root of 1655 01:14:25,700 --> 01:14:21,070 your emotions and then that you can 1656 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:25,710 actually yourself and then when you die 1657 01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:28,210 mmm yeah that is a very strong 1658 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:30,400 possibility session I mean if you you 1659 01:14:36,330 --> 01:14:33,010 think about it I mean as human beings my 1660 01:14:39,330 --> 01:14:36,340 idea is that the soul or the the energy 1661 01:14:41,459 --> 01:14:39,340 source that you know that we are in this 1662 01:14:42,900 --> 01:14:41,469 life we operate on a very limited flow 1663 01:14:44,310 --> 01:14:42,910 of conscious awareness and what's 1664 01:14:46,500 --> 01:14:44,320 happening is that everything has been 1665 01:14:49,670 --> 01:14:46,510 recorded within this life we just a tape 1666 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:49,680 recorder basically and we die that my 1667 01:14:54,090 --> 01:14:51,610 understanding is that that information 1668 01:14:56,940 --> 01:14:54,100 is sent back to the pool of creation and 1669 01:15:04,229 --> 01:14:56,950 that we continue onwards on whatever you 1670 01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:04,239 know whatever so you know we believe it 1671 01:15:09,310 --> 01:15:06,290 like a ghost file 1672 01:15:18,970 --> 01:15:09,320 our meat machine when we pop our clocks 1673 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:18,980 but another meat machine I love it so we 1674 01:15:23,860 --> 01:15:21,410 leave this kind of imprint of the energy 1675 01:15:26,620 --> 01:15:23,870 of the the meat machine but there are 1676 01:15:30,150 --> 01:15:26,630 conscious energy it is a part of a 1677 01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:30,160 collective so you know your thoughts 1678 01:15:36,210 --> 01:15:33,110 whether you know the lower frequency 1679 01:15:41,550 --> 01:15:36,220 thinking negative things are completely 1680 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:41,560 high-end positivity you know that is 1681 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:46,010 what is next so for example Buddhists 1682 01:15:50,050 --> 01:15:48,770 have their own collective consciousness 1683 01:15:52,020 --> 01:15:50,060 of what they think is going to happen 1684 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:52,030 and will happen when they die 1685 01:15:59,260 --> 01:15:55,090 Christianity you know you live forever 1686 01:16:04,800 --> 01:15:59,270 in the kingdom of God and then you know 1687 01:16:07,300 --> 01:16:04,810 I mean yeah it reminds me that film the 1688 01:16:09,970 --> 01:16:07,310 The Forbidden Planet with Robby the 1689 01:16:11,979 --> 01:16:09,980 Robot and where the doctor was creating 1690 01:16:14,020 --> 01:16:11,989 his own demons to remember that were at 1691 01:16:16,330 --> 01:16:14,030 the end that it was it was him himself 1692 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:16,340 who've been creating this deme demon 1693 01:16:21,370 --> 01:16:19,610 this monster that was terrorizing the 1694 01:16:25,050 --> 01:16:21,380 place and destroying everything so you 1695 01:16:30,250 --> 01:16:28,690 it's an old film 1950s phone but I like 1696 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:30,260 Robby the Robot he was kind of cool 1697 01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:33,170 robot but this self was really very cool 1698 01:16:37,270 --> 01:16:35,570 but you know in terms the other thing 1699 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:37,280 that I found of interest Sasha with 1700 01:16:42,130 --> 01:16:39,770 regards to the UFO phenomenon is that it 1701 01:16:45,190 --> 01:16:42,140 is sporadic and it happens entirely in 1702 01:16:47,110 --> 01:16:45,200 its own time as a point medium when I 1703 01:16:48,310 --> 01:16:47,120 when those on the other side I mean I 1704 01:16:50,260 --> 01:16:48,320 always say to people I couldn't raise 1705 01:16:52,380 --> 01:16:50,270 the skin of rice pudding because the way 1706 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:52,390 that the other side relay information 1707 01:16:57,370 --> 01:16:54,890 consciously is is like downloading a 1708 01:16:59,500 --> 01:16:57,380 signal into the TV set of your hardware 1709 01:17:02,200 --> 01:16:59,510 basically from the software but 1710 01:17:04,540 --> 01:17:02,210 sometimes see lights and I've spoken 1711 01:17:06,670 --> 01:17:04,550 doctor to doctor arena thought about 1712 01:17:09,070 --> 01:17:06,680 these lights around people now the 1713 01:17:11,890 --> 01:17:09,080 energy that I'd pick up around my the 1714 01:17:14,590 --> 01:17:11,900 club my clients or the people I read for 1715 01:17:16,870 --> 01:17:14,600 is very different from the UFO phenomena 1716 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:16,880 the UFO phenomena on the varied 1717 01:17:20,149 --> 01:17:19,370 occasions that I've seen them seems to 1718 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:20,159 operate on a more 1719 01:17:28,339 --> 01:17:24,449 powerful more overpowering energy filled 1720 01:17:31,429 --> 01:17:28,349 frequency and I will tell you that in on 1721 01:17:33,830 --> 01:17:31,439 the 9th of April 2016 when we'd seen 1722 01:17:35,629 --> 01:17:33,840 those three huge lights that were 1723 01:17:37,279 --> 01:17:35,639 hovering over our house when I come back 1724 01:17:39,140 --> 01:17:37,289 and my niece had film them in Mastan was 1725 01:17:41,419 --> 01:17:39,150 trying to get hold of me the story's out 1726 01:17:43,850 --> 01:17:41,429 you know what happened but it was as 1727 01:17:45,739 --> 01:17:43,860 though time had stopped there was no one 1728 01:17:47,299 --> 01:17:45,749 walking their dog there was no one 1729 01:17:49,819 --> 01:17:47,309 coming back from the pub it was about 1730 01:17:51,919 --> 01:17:49,829 quarter past 9:00 a quarter past 11 at 1731 01:17:54,169 --> 01:17:51,929 night sorry no one coming back from the 1732 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:54,179 pub no one walking their dogs there was 1733 01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:56,130 no one just me and my brother and I'm 1734 01:17:59,750 --> 01:17:58,050 telling you it's correct is like the 1735 01:18:02,839 --> 01:17:59,760 awesome actress like they created this 1736 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:02,849 bubble rather like a medium I suppose 1737 01:18:06,379 --> 01:18:04,650 when they start to connect with the 1738 01:18:08,299 --> 01:18:06,389 client and then the information comes 1739 01:18:10,489 --> 01:18:08,309 through cops Lee from the departed loved 1740 01:18:12,020 --> 01:18:10,499 one but there is a difference because 1741 01:18:14,149 --> 01:18:12,030 when people say all you're dealing with 1742 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:14,159 demons no we're not there are there are 1743 01:18:18,799 --> 01:18:17,010 two different aspects here one is the 1744 01:18:20,390 --> 01:18:18,809 psychic that can be operated to bring 1745 01:18:21,979 --> 01:18:20,400 people through from the other side and 1746 01:18:23,569 --> 01:18:21,989 I've not once ever brought a grave 1747 01:18:26,060 --> 01:18:23,579 through from the other side which is 1748 01:18:28,819 --> 01:18:26,070 interesting has been you have you have 1749 01:18:30,679 --> 01:18:28,829 used I had a I had a conversation with 1750 01:18:32,810 --> 01:18:30,689 some people in America thankfully the 1751 01:18:35,299 --> 01:18:32,820 last never again I mean they had it all 1752 01:18:37,370 --> 01:18:35,309 worked out you know that did every day 1753 01:18:38,899 --> 01:18:37,380 of the week and she dealt with love and 1754 01:18:41,149 --> 01:18:38,909 light and it was all lovely and the 1755 01:18:43,969 --> 01:18:41,159 gentleman was telling me you know how 1756 01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:43,979 wrong I was and that he kept speaking 1757 01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:45,840 and speaking about all his theories got 1758 01:18:49,790 --> 01:18:47,280 it all worked out and I thought you know 1759 01:18:51,770 --> 01:18:49,800 what I can't deal with this I can't 1760 01:18:54,469 --> 01:18:51,780 there's no room for intellectual debate 1761 01:18:56,509 --> 01:18:54,479 there's all worked out and I'm thinking 1762 01:18:59,659 --> 01:18:56,519 to myself this is the problem that we 1763 01:19:02,689 --> 01:18:59,669 have now Sasha on our planet okay we 1764 01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:02,699 have our very different experiences but 1765 01:19:08,449 --> 01:19:06,510 there is a key denominator a pattern to 1766 01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:08,459 most of these and you can tell you can 1767 01:19:12,649 --> 01:19:10,050 tell Sasha when you're dealing with 1768 01:19:18,859 --> 01:19:12,659 someone who is genuine you know I can 1769 01:19:21,859 --> 01:19:18,869 small but you know know the day at the 1770 01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:21,869 end of the day our humility and our 1771 01:19:27,169 --> 01:19:24,570 empathy sometimes can get in the way of 1772 01:19:30,529 --> 01:19:27,179 that I fell for that what I'm saying 1773 01:19:32,299 --> 01:19:30,539 that another know roughly those people 1774 01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:32,309 who are telling the truth and those who 1775 01:19:36,170 --> 01:19:34,110 are not but it's these people that like 1776 01:19:38,180 --> 01:19:36,180 often attend gym oh I was abducted last 1777 01:19:39,380 --> 01:19:38,190 week or you know day in and day out and 1778 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:39,390 it's all love and light and I'm thinking 1779 01:19:43,310 --> 01:19:41,970 well that's not quite what I'm getting 1780 01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:43,320 from this because a lot of the 1781 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:45,600 experiences are quite terrifying I'm not 1782 01:19:49,970 --> 01:19:47,130 saying that's all of them but the greys 1783 01:19:51,710 --> 01:19:49,980 themselves do scare people because when 1784 01:19:54,980 --> 01:19:51,720 you when you if you've seen one which 1785 01:19:57,890 --> 01:19:54,990 you have and I have it's not like all 1786 01:19:59,540 --> 01:19:57,900 unscared it's it's a deep deep feeling 1787 01:20:12,740 --> 01:19:59,550 of dread it's like oh my god what the 1788 01:20:14,810 --> 01:20:12,750 hell is this overwhelms and and you know 1789 01:20:15,530 --> 01:20:14,820 in any few is like going back into my 1790 01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:15,540 past 1791 01:20:20,030 --> 01:20:17,850 there are even parts that I remember 1792 01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:20,040 that I haven't written about and they're 1793 01:20:24,230 --> 01:20:22,050 kind of like remind me of key points to 1794 01:20:26,180 --> 01:20:24,240 things that have turned up can I tell 1795 01:20:29,930 --> 01:20:26,190 you of a vision that I had about the 1796 01:20:32,900 --> 01:20:29,940 UFOs well I still trying to work it out 1797 01:20:36,110 --> 01:20:32,910 and I you know I'm I can't but I had 1798 01:20:38,630 --> 01:20:36,120 these two dreams and and I had them 1799 01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:38,640 twice one after the other I can't 1800 01:20:42,260 --> 01:20:40,650 remember how long how long apart they 1801 01:20:45,980 --> 01:20:42,270 were but they were the same and 1802 01:20:48,290 --> 01:20:45,990 basically I'm standing by this window 1803 01:20:50,150 --> 01:20:48,300 and I'm looking out and it's dark and 1804 01:20:52,730 --> 01:20:50,160 then I suddenly see this UFO and I'm 1805 01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:52,740 saying to myself my god again they're 1806 01:20:57,650 --> 01:20:55,410 real they're real I'm so excited Sasha 1807 01:20:59,210 --> 01:20:57,660 I'm amazed I'm like putting my arms up 1808 01:21:01,370 --> 01:20:59,220 thinking they're here everyone they're 1809 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:01,380 here these debunkers those those people 1810 01:21:05,810 --> 01:21:02,970 that don't believe they're here and then 1811 01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:05,820 as the UFO comes closer to me it gets 1812 01:21:11,420 --> 01:21:08,370 smaller and I'm thinking I can hold this 1813 01:21:16,130 --> 01:21:11,430 thing I can hold it and then it turns 1814 01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:16,140 into a piece of old rusting lead the 1815 01:21:21,650 --> 01:21:19,410 second one again was the same thing that 1816 01:21:24,350 --> 01:21:21,660 happens again exactly the same but it 1817 01:21:26,330 --> 01:21:24,360 turned into an old bottle and my mind is 1818 01:21:28,190 --> 01:21:26,340 trying to think you know dear God we're 1819 01:21:30,620 --> 01:21:28,200 all racing for the Holy Grail of what 1820 01:21:33,590 --> 01:21:30,630 this all means does this mean that this 1821 01:21:35,750 --> 01:21:33,600 that we will never get what this subject 1822 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:35,760 matter is because you know it's staring 1823 01:21:39,950 --> 01:21:37,410 us right in the face and we can't work 1824 01:21:42,410 --> 01:21:39,960 it out so that that's something that I 1825 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:42,420 feel wasn't just a dream as people say 1826 01:21:46,700 --> 01:21:44,730 oh you just have a dream or I believe 1827 01:21:47,780 --> 01:21:46,710 there was something like use well you 1828 01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:47,790 had that vision 1829 01:21:53,630 --> 01:21:51,330 the sunflower and all of the information 1830 01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:53,640 coming in with that I believe that 1831 01:21:59,480 --> 01:21:56,610 there's some type of download on a on a 1832 01:22:01,310 --> 01:21:59,490 very deep subconscious level where 1833 01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:01,320 there's a part of your mind saying this 1834 01:22:05,150 --> 01:22:03,570 is what the truth is we can't try and 1835 01:22:06,530 --> 01:22:05,160 bring it out in your language but we'll 1836 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:06,540 try and bring it out in a way that 1837 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:08,850 you'll understand so Sasha have you can 1838 01:22:12,670 --> 01:22:10,650 break that form if you come you can you 1839 01:22:22,010 --> 01:22:12,680 can sort that out for me I'd be happy 1840 01:22:24,250 --> 01:22:22,020 because I don't know why but when you 1841 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:24,260 were talking about that piece of lead 1842 01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:27,570 they brought back a dream that I had 1843 01:22:34,580 --> 01:22:32,250 that was like it was water on this Lake 1844 01:22:38,660 --> 01:22:34,590 it was like a speaker it was admitted 1845 01:22:40,820 --> 01:22:38,670 sound and frequencies and the water 1846 01:22:43,310 --> 01:22:40,830 jumped up in the air and it started 1847 01:22:45,550 --> 01:22:43,320 wobbling all over like it looked like an 1848 01:22:48,740 --> 01:22:45,560 amoeba but was moving with it so I'm so 1849 01:22:51,410 --> 01:22:48,750 freaking out and changing shape and then 1850 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:51,420 it kept going up and open open open 1851 01:22:56,090 --> 01:22:53,970 in this the noise I mean the freak and 1852 01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:56,100 the sound of the frequency that was you 1853 01:23:02,480 --> 01:22:57,570 know they do those things with the sound 1854 01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:02,490 and it makes all the oh yeah well this 1855 01:23:07,300 --> 01:23:04,650 was the sound making the water takes 1856 01:23:15,860 --> 01:23:07,310 shape and then it hit this pitch and 1857 01:23:20,420 --> 01:23:15,870 held farm in a perfect egg Wow vii 1858 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:20,430 frequency that's what yeah yeah and it 1859 01:23:23,990 --> 01:23:22,290 you're right you're absolutely right 1860 01:23:29,480 --> 01:23:24,000 it's to do with frequency and this is 1861 01:23:32,390 --> 01:23:29,490 the thing this is the really was the 1862 01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:32,400 words yeah and it's the harmonic 1863 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:35,010 frequencies of the body system so this 1864 01:23:40,340 --> 01:23:36,810 is where it gets a bit deep but let's 1865 01:23:45,530 --> 01:23:40,350 look let's look at the facts we are not 1866 01:23:47,780 --> 01:23:45,540 just and I love that so I've got to use 1867 01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:47,790 that but you know Sasha Christie's two 1868 01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:50,250 courses meet machines but there is the 1869 01:23:55,070 --> 01:23:52,530 genuine belief that we and I know that 1870 01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:55,080 we have a soul that we are you and I and 1871 01:23:58,700 --> 01:23:56,370 many other people are still trying to 1872 01:24:00,710 --> 01:23:58,710 work that out we know there is one and 1873 01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:00,720 maybe these experiences of China's to 1874 01:24:03,980 --> 01:24:01,650 take us out of the 1875 01:24:05,570 --> 01:24:03,990 reality was starting to tell us you know 1876 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:05,580 there's a whole lot more to your life 1877 01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:07,290 and about the journey that you're you're 1878 01:24:12,230 --> 01:24:10,410 you're going you're you're moving it I 1879 01:24:14,630 --> 01:24:12,240 can't get the words out there similar to 1880 01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:14,640 your life and a long journey ahead and 1881 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:16,290 we're trying to tell you that you know 1882 01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:17,970 you're part of something much bigger and 1883 01:24:22,700 --> 01:24:20,490 much grander now you know and I believe 1884 01:24:26,570 --> 01:24:22,710 that you know although that we are 1885 01:24:29,390 --> 01:24:26,580 guilty of of labeling this phenomena as 1886 01:24:32,810 --> 01:24:29,400 quite disturbing but there again we can 1887 01:24:37,370 --> 01:24:32,820 be forgiven because it to our mind to us 1888 01:24:40,100 --> 01:24:37,380 as processing beings we do see it that 1889 01:24:43,130 --> 01:24:40,110 way whether it really is on a larger 1890 01:24:45,710 --> 01:24:43,140 scale we don't know but at the same 1891 01:24:47,180 --> 01:24:45,720 token you know we're battling the 1892 01:24:49,580 --> 01:24:47,190 question and you hear it again and again 1893 01:24:51,470 --> 01:24:49,590 in the media circles you know yes 1894 01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:51,480 there's life after death next minute no 1895 01:24:54,260 --> 01:24:52,080 there isn't 1896 01:24:56,540 --> 01:24:54,270 oh there's life out there but it's too 1897 01:24:58,250 --> 01:24:56,550 far away that can't get here Islam you 1898 01:25:00,320 --> 01:24:58,260 know give it to the public then slap it 1899 01:25:03,020 --> 01:25:00,330 in their face again this whole thing has 1900 01:25:05,420 --> 01:25:03,030 to change because you know this 1901 01:25:08,090 --> 01:25:05,430 disclosure movement I don't know how 1902 01:25:10,490 --> 01:25:08,100 that's gonna work you know Christ you 1903 01:25:12,440 --> 01:25:10,500 tell the public in the media there is 1904 01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:12,450 going to be water salt shortage they're 1905 01:25:16,070 --> 01:25:14,130 all out there buying the water or a fuel 1906 01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:16,080 shortage so how they're they're going to 1907 01:25:21,140 --> 01:25:18,330 cope with a phenomena that we we don't 1908 01:25:23,210 --> 01:25:21,150 yet fully understand and that will send 1909 01:25:30,770 --> 01:25:23,220 them over the edge won't it really when 1910 01:25:33,050 --> 01:25:30,780 you think an emotional reaction these 1911 01:25:35,180 --> 01:25:33,060 days you just have to look at the way 1912 01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:35,190 that politics has developed over social 1913 01:25:49,580 --> 01:25:46,820 yeah yeah and and also the when you 1914 01:25:51,470 --> 01:25:49,590 talked going back not not you know 1915 01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:51,480 jumping around here but when you said 1916 01:25:55,220 --> 01:25:53,520 about the harmonic frequencies that is 1917 01:25:57,350 --> 01:25:55,230 also very interesting thing cuz I will 1918 01:25:59,660 --> 01:25:57,360 tell you which you're probably aware of 1919 01:26:02,570 --> 01:25:59,670 is well that in order to satisfy my 1920 01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:02,580 curiosity with regards to these aliens 1921 01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:06,090 as we call them we my brother and I and 1922 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:08,370 Susan have met the fabulous Peter 1923 01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:11,010 Robbins many years ago and he's when he 1924 01:26:14,630 --> 01:26:12,570 came to England and he said you know you 1925 01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:14,640 guys have got a go to Reynolds from for 1926 01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:15,570 us you got a goal there 1927 01:26:17,810 --> 01:26:16,530 you know there's a lot of things 1928 01:26:20,209 --> 01:26:17,820 happening out there and we said okay 1929 01:26:21,979 --> 01:26:20,219 Peter will do that so we went out there 1930 01:26:24,410 --> 01:26:21,989 and we did a lot of experiments out 1931 01:26:26,149 --> 01:26:24,420 there and one one time I remembered I 1932 01:26:29,899 --> 01:26:26,159 heard Karen Carpenter's song calling 1933 01:26:32,300 --> 01:26:29,909 occupants and I wonder if we could so 1934 01:26:35,359 --> 01:26:32,310 what we did was that we had meditated at 1935 01:26:37,189 --> 01:26:35,369 home here in in Bedfordshire and a week 1936 01:26:40,100 --> 01:26:37,199 before we were going out I'm sure it was 1937 01:26:43,850 --> 01:26:40,110 about a week and the day had arrived and 1938 01:26:46,850 --> 01:26:43,860 was it June the 8th 1998 I think we went 1939 01:26:49,220 --> 01:26:46,860 out there then and we'd send out our 1940 01:26:50,930 --> 01:26:49,230 intentions consciously for them to 1941 01:26:52,729 --> 01:26:50,940 appear to us we weren't going to take 1942 01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:52,739 any camera equipment or anything at all 1943 01:26:56,780 --> 01:26:54,810 we just wanted to be on a personal level 1944 01:27:00,140 --> 01:26:56,790 to see them and you get people satoru 1945 01:27:02,390 --> 01:27:00,150 say wow I don't believe well that's fine 1946 01:27:04,250 --> 01:27:02,400 but I hope to god that people understand 1947 01:27:05,870 --> 01:27:04,260 that I don't deal like me with rubbish I 1948 01:27:08,089 --> 01:27:05,880 just deal with black and white so we've 1949 01:27:10,430 --> 01:27:08,099 gone out there on this day and we 1950 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:10,440 weren't expecting anything I'd gone out 1951 01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:13,290 into the farmer's field where I assumed 1952 01:27:17,839 --> 01:27:15,810 that most of this had happened I didn't 1953 01:27:19,819 --> 01:27:17,849 know where in hell it was and I used a 1954 01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:19,829 pair of dowsing wants to find an area in 1955 01:27:26,359 --> 01:27:23,010 the dark where where we could sit in a 1956 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:26,369 circle to meditate again after our 1957 01:27:32,540 --> 01:27:30,050 initial meditation one week earlier and 1958 01:27:34,609 --> 01:27:32,550 so we had to be careful because the 1959 01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:34,619 farmers renowned for seeing people in 1960 01:27:38,030 --> 01:27:36,239 his field he doesn't like this is just 1961 01:27:40,430 --> 01:27:38,040 outside the sphere of the forest 1962 01:27:42,890 --> 01:27:40,440 so we've now I found this spot because 1963 01:27:44,390 --> 01:27:42,900 the the dowsing rods moved across and I 1964 01:27:46,729 --> 01:27:44,400 thought well if they're moving across it 1965 01:27:49,100 --> 01:27:46,739 must be working because it's found some 1966 01:27:51,140 --> 01:27:49,110 things before I'll just rely on that so 1967 01:27:53,689 --> 01:27:51,150 we sat in this circle in the dark of a 1968 01:27:56,810 --> 01:27:53,699 moonlit night on this date and it was 1969 01:27:59,839 --> 01:27:56,820 just before quarter to 10:00 where we 1970 01:28:02,839 --> 01:27:59,849 meditated and we got up you know we saw 1971 01:28:06,020 --> 01:28:02,849 this red light that was coming from the 1972 01:28:07,550 --> 01:28:06,030 farmers house and I thought crap he's 1973 01:28:09,410 --> 01:28:07,560 seen us he's got in a car and he's 1974 01:28:11,810 --> 01:28:09,420 coming across because half the field was 1975 01:28:13,370 --> 01:28:11,820 crop and half the field was barren we 1976 01:28:14,510 --> 01:28:13,380 were on the barren part so he started 1977 01:28:17,390 --> 01:28:14,520 running back and I stopped and thought 1978 01:28:24,799 --> 01:28:17,400 hang on just a minute hang on I I that's 1979 01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:28,819 like you know we we would like well you 1980 01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:30,239 know anyone would when they it's not our 1981 01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:33,690 land so we're watching red light and it 1982 01:28:38,930 --> 01:28:36,210 started to come closer towards us and I 1983 01:28:41,060 --> 01:28:38,940 thought oh my god and that that bit of 1984 01:28:43,850 --> 01:28:41,070 fear and excitement starts coming in you 1985 01:28:46,129 --> 01:28:43,860 and then it shot really fast across the 1986 01:28:47,839 --> 01:28:46,139 field and went through the crop and 1987 01:28:50,270 --> 01:28:47,849 disappeared to the other end of the 1988 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:50,280 field where the crop was the end of the 1989 01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:52,170 crop was and and that was it we thought 1990 01:28:56,299 --> 01:28:54,480 oh my god Susan our friend Susan my 1991 01:28:59,450 --> 01:28:56,309 brother were like gee that was amazing 1992 01:29:01,970 --> 01:28:59,460 well at quarter past ten and it was 1993 01:29:04,879 --> 01:29:01,980 quarter past ten there was a flash of 1994 01:29:06,830 --> 01:29:04,889 light above the trees that are very tall 1995 01:29:08,510 --> 01:29:06,840 there I could point out where exactly 1996 01:29:09,740 --> 01:29:08,520 where it was if I went there are know 1997 01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:09,750 exactly where it happened 1998 01:29:15,229 --> 01:29:12,239 and there was this object and it 1999 01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:15,239 appeared and it was like a pyramid and 2000 01:29:21,379 --> 01:29:17,730 it would the pyramid was glowing like a 2001 01:29:23,959 --> 01:29:21,389 yellowy gold color light color and 2002 01:29:25,970 --> 01:29:23,969 underneath that was a gap and a circular 2003 01:29:28,459 --> 01:29:25,980 appendage that was dis shaped with these 2004 01:29:32,629 --> 01:29:28,469 blue lights around its Bank and it just 2005 01:29:34,459 --> 01:29:32,639 remains motionless it didn't move at all 2006 01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:34,469 like north south east west 2007 01:29:39,649 --> 01:29:36,449 it was motionless but it started to turn 2008 01:29:41,660 --> 01:29:39,659 like a clock so the top part turned one 2009 01:29:44,029 --> 01:29:41,670 way and the bottom part turned the other 2010 01:29:47,689 --> 01:29:44,039 well we got it in the binoculars and 2011 01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:47,699 that was it I started to bolt towards it 2012 01:29:53,540 --> 01:29:49,199 I'll never forget it I've written about 2013 01:29:56,089 --> 01:29:53,550 this and as I ran I kept shouting Mac 2014 01:29:58,189 --> 01:29:56,099 tell me it's a pyramid tell me it's 2015 01:29:59,810 --> 01:29:58,199 glowing tell me it hasn't circular 2016 01:30:03,109 --> 01:29:59,820 undercarriage because I want to confirm 2017 01:30:04,850 --> 01:30:03,119 that what I seeing was what Susan Arnold 2018 01:30:09,950 --> 01:30:04,860 was seeing and they panicked because I 2019 01:30:11,540 --> 01:30:09,960 was shouting and I I start unto the my 2020 01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:11,550 jeans and I got closer and closer to 2021 01:30:16,850 --> 01:30:14,730 this amazing device whatever you want to 2022 01:30:20,060 --> 01:30:16,860 call it and then when I got underneath 2023 01:30:20,390 --> 01:30:20,070 it it I tripped and it went out like a 2024 01:30:23,209 --> 01:30:20,400 light 2025 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:23,219 I tripped fell took in a mouthful of mud 2026 01:30:30,379 --> 01:30:26,570 and then spat it out and then I cried 2027 01:30:32,149 --> 01:30:30,389 because I was so when I was running 2028 01:30:35,060 --> 01:30:32,159 towards that was a half placed hominid I 2029 01:30:39,370 --> 01:30:35,070 I didn't I could have been come I was 2030 01:30:42,380 --> 01:30:39,380 like you know like a guy this low Oh 2031 01:30:44,540 --> 01:30:42,390 yeah literally I didn't think think 2032 01:30:46,580 --> 01:30:44,550 about anything but when it went out it 2033 01:30:49,340 --> 01:30:46,590 just flipped out like someone turning 2034 01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:49,350 the lights out and then like I cried and 2035 01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:51,930 then I started laughing and Susan one 2036 01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:53,970 where we were all quite amazed by what 2037 01:30:57,770 --> 01:30:55,770 have happened I knew no one would 2038 01:31:00,050 --> 01:30:57,780 believe us now what happened was what 2039 01:31:02,300 --> 01:31:00,060 happened were sasha was the next day I 2040 01:31:04,790 --> 01:31:02,310 come back two more anything to eat I was 2041 01:31:06,530 --> 01:31:04,800 so stunned I contacted UFO magazine and 2042 01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:06,540 I spoke to them and they were very 2043 01:31:09,860 --> 01:31:08,490 interested I said hey what it's not it 2044 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:09,870 you've got a we've got to tell you about 2045 01:31:13,940 --> 01:31:11,610 this because my mind was racing with 2046 01:31:16,730 --> 01:31:13,950 like do you guys have gotta understand 2047 01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:16,740 what happened so this guy called Green 2048 01:31:20,570 --> 01:31:18,810 Forbes asked me to write and draw 2049 01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:20,580 everything and send it to him who had 2050 01:31:24,380 --> 01:31:22,530 parted to Peter Robbins he didn't know 2051 01:31:26,660 --> 01:31:24,390 that I'd met Peter Robbins he said he 2052 01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:26,670 would pass it to him well nothing 2053 01:31:31,540 --> 01:31:28,530 happened and it's no conspiracy it's 2054 01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:31,550 just kind of strange a month or so later 2055 01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:34,050 it could have been a bit more I'm not 2056 01:31:37,970 --> 01:31:35,850 sure such because I didn't take a record 2057 01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:37,980 of when I you know how long it was but 2058 01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:39,690 iPhone magazine back up and I said oh 2059 01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:41,610 can I speak to bream for this and they 2060 01:31:45,050 --> 01:31:42,810 said well we don't have anyone by that 2061 01:31:47,900 --> 01:31:45,060 name and it's that Hitchcock moment with 2062 01:31:49,580 --> 01:31:47,910 a knife when it goes hurt hurt hurt no 2063 01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:49,590 one by that name I said no and I said 2064 01:31:54,830 --> 01:31:51,810 well I sent some stuff to you I was like 2065 01:31:57,740 --> 01:31:54,840 we haven't had any stuff so you know now 2066 01:31:59,690 --> 01:31:57,750 you know another conspiracy but how 2067 01:32:01,910 --> 01:31:59,700 could there be a conspiracy who would 2068 01:32:04,010 --> 01:32:01,920 believe three people out in the middle 2069 01:32:07,370 --> 01:32:04,020 of nowhere in a field but we documented 2070 01:32:11,630 --> 01:32:07,380 and we recorded everything and that then 2071 01:32:13,460 --> 01:32:11,640 I told me consciously we are able to 2072 01:32:16,450 --> 01:32:13,470 connect with them on a conscious level 2073 01:32:18,590 --> 01:32:16,460 and that unlike thoughts snapped into 2074 01:32:20,660 --> 01:32:18,600 whatever it was I couldn't tell you if 2075 01:32:23,450 --> 01:32:20,670 it was a time machine if it was a UFO 2076 01:32:25,580 --> 01:32:23,460 and you know people say oh you know 2077 01:32:27,290 --> 01:32:25,590 you're just jumping on the bandwagon we 2078 01:32:29,150 --> 01:32:27,300 actually went out there session we did 2079 01:32:30,980 --> 01:32:29,160 our field research that's where I met 2080 01:32:32,210 --> 01:32:30,990 Brendan Butler I got out the car I 2081 01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:32,220 didn't know where she was in the world 2082 01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:34,290 one night it's not the same night and I 2083 01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:35,730 said I'd love to meet Brenda back there 2084 01:32:41,300 --> 01:32:37,770 and who'd you think we met that night in 2085 01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:41,310 in the forest with Pete I think it was 2086 01:32:48,380 --> 01:32:44,570 Peter right and there she had a white 2087 01:32:50,090 --> 01:32:48,390 Alsatian and I I went back and said are 2088 01:32:51,650 --> 01:32:50,100 you looking for the orbs because we 2089 01:32:52,250 --> 01:32:51,660 thought it was the UFO we was seeing it 2090 01:32:53,959 --> 01:32:52,260 was just too 2091 01:33:01,629 --> 01:32:53,969 and there were the torch and this music 2092 01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:05,240 started I think all of us are connected 2093 01:33:12,350 --> 01:33:08,130 through delicate synchronicities libel 2094 01:33:15,709 --> 01:33:12,360 that on some very unique level that your 2095 01:33:18,529 --> 01:33:15,719 life your experiences sasha are unique 2096 01:33:21,589 --> 01:33:18,539 to you and they are unfolding within 2097 01:33:24,919 --> 01:33:21,599 themselves for you and personally you 2098 01:33:27,490 --> 01:33:24,929 and as mine are for me and I think a lot 2099 01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:27,500 of us follow gist's are looking for 2100 01:33:32,839 --> 01:33:30,570 something that can fit all into that one 2101 01:33:46,990 --> 01:33:32,849 box when actually it may be very 2102 01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:47,000 multifaceted anyway and there seem to be 2103 01:33:53,060 --> 01:33:50,090 intellectually frightened of 2104 01:33:55,790 --> 01:33:53,070 entertaining certain thoughts you know 2105 01:33:58,509 --> 01:33:55,800 like oh if I think that for a moment 2106 01:34:03,259 --> 01:33:58,519 then I might lose my mind forever 2107 01:34:05,390 --> 01:34:03,269 you know entertain an idea and let it 2108 01:34:10,009 --> 01:34:05,400 float through your head and out again 2109 01:34:11,149 --> 01:34:10,019 without any life changes so I think 2110 01:34:12,589 --> 01:34:11,159 people are frightened so of the 2111 01:34:15,649 --> 01:34:12,599 conversations because it's all been 2112 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:15,659 ridiculed so much and still is even like 2113 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:20,010 the you know TT essay a lot with the 2114 01:34:24,890 --> 01:34:22,530 Elba Navy coming out all these people 2115 01:34:27,259 --> 01:34:24,900 doing all these things guy from the CIA 2116 01:34:28,970 --> 01:34:27,269 the guy from where you know Lockheed 2117 01:34:31,549 --> 01:34:28,980 Martin the guy from you know the skunk 2118 01:34:34,069 --> 01:34:31,559 works they're all you know together 2119 01:34:37,870 --> 01:34:34,079 doing this stuff but they don't want to 2120 01:34:41,930 --> 01:34:37,880 or speculate not be inside these things 2121 01:34:45,259 --> 01:34:41,940 you know like well it's a really logical 2122 01:34:47,419 --> 01:34:45,269 thing to sort of connect that there 2123 01:34:48,770 --> 01:34:47,429 might be something we don't know what it 2124 01:34:50,540 --> 01:34:48,780 is we don't know what the technology is 2125 01:34:58,089 --> 01:34:50,550 we've got all the best stuff in the 2126 01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:02,770 talk about that oh man 2127 01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:06,050 well the third UI and a lot of other 2128 01:35:11,620 --> 01:35:08,330 people have suffered in silence through 2129 01:35:13,810 --> 01:35:11,630 the might of the media machine and that 2130 01:35:16,090 --> 01:35:13,820 is something that I woke up to very very 2131 01:35:19,930 --> 01:35:16,100 quickly after I've you know gone through 2132 01:35:21,820 --> 01:35:19,940 a very negative experience you know and 2133 01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:21,830 through television through the major 2134 01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:24,050 media outlets and it's not something 2135 01:35:29,380 --> 01:35:26,960 that I would entertain in the future at 2136 01:35:30,820 --> 01:35:29,390 all unless it was actually under we were 2137 01:35:42,150 --> 01:35:30,830 in control of it because some people 2138 01:35:44,230 --> 01:35:42,160 have just helped damage people 2139 01:35:47,890 --> 01:35:44,240 traumatized people who were already 2140 01:35:50,590 --> 01:35:47,900 traumatized yeah and you know under you 2141 01:35:52,900 --> 01:35:50,600 know certain conditions you know it 2142 01:35:54,820 --> 01:35:52,910 takes someone to c1 for them to change 2143 01:35:57,130 --> 01:35:54,830 it's rather like someone god forbid who 2144 01:35:59,530 --> 01:35:57,140 gets involved in as an accident that 2145 01:36:01,570 --> 01:35:59,540 changes their entire life but someone 2146 01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:01,580 who hasn't had the accident cannot 2147 01:36:06,820 --> 01:36:04,610 relate to that so I get that to a degree 2148 01:36:08,980 --> 01:36:06,830 but I think the system that we serve has 2149 01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:08,990 been damaging because what it's doing 2150 01:36:14,050 --> 01:36:12,410 now it's crushing empathy it's crushing 2151 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:14,060 our emotional connections with one 2152 01:36:19,870 --> 01:36:16,610 another it's trying to really force down 2153 01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:19,880 now on on certain subjects to boost that 2154 01:36:24,070 --> 01:36:21,770 they consider to boost subjects about 2155 01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:24,080 life after death and what a world we 2156 01:36:29,740 --> 01:36:26,810 would live in if we could just try to 2157 01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:29,750 work together in uniting in truth and in 2158 01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:32,690 harmony more about what we represent as 2159 01:36:39,340 --> 01:36:34,850 opposed to the you know the meat machine 2160 01:36:40,540 --> 01:36:39,350 as you call us or you know the spiritual 2161 01:36:42,490 --> 01:36:40,550 part as well and I use the word 2162 01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:42,500 spiritual very loosely I mean that in 2163 01:36:46,780 --> 01:36:44,210 the sense of soul survival or the 2164 01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:46,790 continuation of consciousness so on a 2165 01:36:51,370 --> 01:36:49,130 grander level I do feel really excited 2166 01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:51,380 by a lot of what's going on and 2167 01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:53,330 especially people like yourself Sasha 2168 01:36:58,930 --> 01:36:56,810 who go out there to look and search for 2169 01:37:01,840 --> 01:36:58,940 the truth and and even though we don't 2170 01:37:04,510 --> 01:37:01,850 have the answers I think to a degree on 2171 01:37:06,940 --> 01:37:04,520 a personal level that we can't explain 2172 01:37:09,010 --> 01:37:06,950 in words we have some form of 2173 01:37:11,290 --> 01:37:09,020 understanding that we can't yet relate 2174 01:37:13,780 --> 01:37:11,300 to and I did like the idea that you 2175 01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:13,790 suggested also sesor about you know 2176 01:37:16,540 --> 01:37:15,890 building up that we leave some parts of 2177 01:37:19,510 --> 01:37:16,550 ourself 2178 01:37:21,460 --> 01:37:19,520 and I really understand that and that's 2179 01:37:26,020 --> 01:37:21,470 the film you have to watch The Forbidden 2180 01:37:27,580 --> 01:37:26,030 Planet and with dr. Morbius and and what 2181 01:37:30,580 --> 01:37:27,590 happened there and that might give you 2182 01:37:32,350 --> 01:37:30,590 an idea of or generalized the idea of 2183 01:37:34,780 --> 01:37:32,360 what you were talking about but 2184 01:37:36,580 --> 01:37:34,790 certainly you know I think with regards 2185 01:37:39,100 --> 01:37:36,590 to a lot of the mysteries on our planet 2186 01:37:42,100 --> 01:37:39,110 a lot of the stuff that we can't yet 2187 01:37:45,310 --> 01:37:42,110 understand this this experience seems to 2188 01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:45,320 play with us it seems to toy with us it 2189 01:38:00,760 --> 01:37:47,330 seems to know that with we're looking 2190 01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:00,770 for it and yet it it's so elusive as 2191 01:38:05,350 --> 01:38:03,890 well like steaming it that is exactly 2192 01:38:07,210 --> 01:38:05,360 what he said are we dealing with 2193 01:38:09,460 --> 01:38:07,220 something like that and I love the way 2194 01:38:11,650 --> 01:38:09,470 that you put that session because the 2195 01:38:13,150 --> 01:38:11,660 way you're right and a lot of people 2196 01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:13,160 people of aardman apps are the same 2197 01:38:17,860 --> 01:38:15,650 thing isn't it strange how when you 2198 01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:17,870 start becoming interested in it it 2199 01:38:22,750 --> 01:38:21,050 becomes interested in you but it's 2200 01:38:27,570 --> 01:38:22,760 something that we can't control 2201 01:38:30,490 --> 01:38:27,580 unlike clairvoyance or the discarnate 2202 01:38:33,010 --> 01:38:30,500 communication that that happens on an 2203 01:38:35,470 --> 01:38:33,020 autumn or automatic response I suppose 2204 01:38:38,410 --> 01:38:35,480 because the the nose on the other side 2205 01:38:41,350 --> 01:38:38,420 are facilitating their thoughts into our 2206 01:38:43,930 --> 01:38:41,360 matrix and through to this mechanism but 2207 01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:43,940 when it comes to the UFO field it has it 2208 01:38:49,330 --> 01:38:46,970 must be separate in some way because it 2209 01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:49,340 it operates on a completely different 2210 01:38:54,850 --> 01:38:52,250 level of reality that that I am aware of 2211 01:38:57,210 --> 01:38:54,860 on a psychic level and I've spoken to 2212 01:39:00,910 --> 01:38:57,220 some other very brilliant mediums that I 2213 01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:00,920 used to know who said the same thing the 2214 01:39:04,830 --> 01:39:01,850 you know they've had these experiences 2215 01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:04,840 quite frightening experiences with UFOs 2216 01:39:10,300 --> 01:39:07,850 and that they don't understand what they 2217 01:39:13,330 --> 01:39:10,310 are where they come from but my modus 2218 01:39:17,020 --> 01:39:13,340 operandi myself has been to try to merge 2219 01:39:19,480 --> 01:39:17,030 the UFO phenomenon with the psychic 2220 01:39:23,140 --> 01:39:19,490 phenomena because they seem to go hand 2221 01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:23,150 in claw with one another there seems to 2222 01:39:29,110 --> 01:39:25,850 be a connection and even if we are wrong 2223 01:39:30,580 --> 01:39:29,120 and I will admit that I'm a person who 2224 01:39:33,940 --> 01:39:30,590 will you know be open 2225 01:39:35,710 --> 01:39:33,950 to the truth whatever truth that Beth it 2226 01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:35,720 comes in whatever form it comes in 2227 01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:39,650 but the Grays are interested in us as a 2228 01:39:44,590 --> 01:39:42,530 species because they are interested in 2229 01:39:46,810 --> 01:39:44,600 what makes us tick they're interested in 2230 01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:46,820 our reproduction they're interested in 2231 01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:48,650 our responses they're interested in in 2232 01:39:52,180 --> 01:39:50,570 color and empathy and taste and age 2233 01:39:54,430 --> 01:39:52,190 these are the attributes that these 2234 01:39:57,250 --> 01:39:54,440 prosaic life ones don't have and I've 2235 01:40:00,520 --> 01:39:57,260 also made a correlation perhaps that 2236 01:40:03,550 --> 01:40:00,530 when we came into being if we go back 2237 01:40:06,310 --> 01:40:03,560 into creation where we ourselves prosaic 2238 01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:06,320 and we have amalgamated ourselves to a 2239 01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:08,690 life form where we could ingest and 2240 01:40:14,110 --> 01:40:11,690 create and become you know into the 2241 01:40:16,870 --> 01:40:14,120 physical the greats themselves maybe 2242 01:40:19,870 --> 01:40:16,880 trying to bypass or cheating the process 2243 01:40:21,340 --> 01:40:19,880 of reincarnation because they don't want 2244 01:40:24,130 --> 01:40:21,350 to go through the many varied levels 2245 01:40:27,310 --> 01:40:24,140 that we as humans go through so there is 2246 01:40:30,010 --> 01:40:27,320 also that can that theory that we have 2247 01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:30,020 to take into consideration that if we 2248 01:40:35,260 --> 01:40:31,970 ourselves tried to clone and cheat the 2249 01:40:37,180 --> 01:40:35,270 process of reproduction and continuous 2250 01:40:39,070 --> 01:40:37,190 recycling of souls coming in and out in 2251 01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:39,080 different lives that we want one single 2252 01:40:43,060 --> 01:40:40,850 life that we may pay the price for that 2253 01:40:46,870 --> 01:40:43,070 and obviously also with regards to 2254 01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:46,880 cloning you know the question is if we 2255 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:50,000 clone humans where does that lead us are 2256 01:40:54,970 --> 01:40:52,010 we then leading ourselves into a down 2257 01:40:57,460 --> 01:40:54,980 downward spiral to a devolution as 2258 01:40:59,110 --> 01:40:57,470 opposed to evolution so certainly 2259 01:41:03,580 --> 01:40:59,120 there's a lot that you know we got to 2260 01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:03,590 consider and take into a in some form of 2261 01:41:09,010 --> 01:41:07,010 hypothesis and you know it's a subject 2262 01:41:10,630 --> 01:41:09,020 matter that can go on and on and you can 2263 01:41:22,990 --> 01:41:10,640 bang it on I sometimes banged my head 2264 01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:23,000 against the wall this is literally 2265 01:41:27,340 --> 01:41:25,010 piecing fragments together it's like 2266 01:41:29,410 --> 01:41:27,350 getting a piece of paper and poking a 2267 01:41:31,510 --> 01:41:29,420 little tiny hole in it and then spying 2268 01:41:33,790 --> 01:41:31,520 through that hole and you can kind of 2269 01:41:37,060 --> 01:41:33,800 make out what's going on but not quite 2270 01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:37,070 and that's what it feels like yeah so 2271 01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:39,050 your expenses especially to your 2272 01:41:44,330 --> 01:41:40,970 listeners as well I would say to them 2273 01:41:45,919 --> 01:41:44,340 that you know you have to be true to you 2274 01:41:48,260 --> 01:41:45,929 yourself and when you are true to 2275 01:41:51,410 --> 01:41:48,270 yourself then you know you can't go 2276 01:41:53,109 --> 01:41:51,420 wrong the abduction experience I always 2277 01:41:56,689 --> 01:41:53,119 thought that it was a very physical 2278 01:41:59,030 --> 01:41:56,699 phenomenon I always assumed that it was 2279 01:42:02,120 --> 01:41:59,040 some fantastic you know a physical 2280 01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:02,130 interaction with aliens but the truth 2281 01:42:07,250 --> 01:42:04,650 that I found that I went through 2282 01:42:09,140 --> 01:42:07,260 suggested well hang on a minute if this 2283 01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:09,150 was an abduction why did it seem very 2284 01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:11,010 different to real-life but after the 2285 01:42:16,310 --> 01:42:12,690 abduction I've been left with physical 2286 01:42:18,620 --> 01:42:16,320 marts now we know that healers can heal 2287 01:42:20,750 --> 01:42:18,630 people without touching them they can 2288 01:42:23,660 --> 01:42:20,760 change the molecular structure of their 2289 01:42:26,689 --> 01:42:23,670 you know their body systems their organs 2290 01:42:29,959 --> 01:42:26,699 and the greys themselves are able to 2291 01:42:32,390 --> 01:42:29,969 penetrate our reality by breaking 2292 01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:32,400 through to the physical and perhaps you 2293 01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:34,530 know taking a part of our spirituality 2294 01:42:38,270 --> 01:42:37,050 our soul into their domain so that when 2295 01:42:40,790 --> 01:42:38,280 we are linked with them we're on the 2296 01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:40,800 same level we intercept we interconnect 2297 01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:42,810 on the same level and that when we 2298 01:42:47,089 --> 01:42:45,210 brought back because you know whatever 2299 01:42:49,189 --> 01:42:47,099 they do to the blueprint of the soul 2300 01:42:50,959 --> 01:42:49,199 that is you will still affect its 2301 01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:50,969 physical counterpart because it's still 2302 01:42:58,129 --> 01:42:55,050 attached to it so the argument is my 2303 01:43:01,010 --> 01:42:58,139 argument is they're definitely the Grays 2304 01:43:03,770 --> 01:43:01,020 are interested in us as a viable and 2305 01:43:06,020 --> 01:43:03,780 also reproductive species but they 2306 01:43:09,109 --> 01:43:06,030 themselves seem like a prosaic 2307 01:43:11,300 --> 01:43:09,119 form they're like a blank canvas I know 2308 01:43:13,820 --> 01:43:11,310 of what we have and I think and feel 2309 01:43:16,370 --> 01:43:13,830 that the answer is there somewhere I may 2310 01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:16,380 be wrong but you know generally looking 2311 01:43:22,100 --> 01:43:18,449 into that I'm trying to piece together 2312 01:43:24,649 --> 01:43:22,110 the soul issue and also a lot more that 2313 01:43:27,859 --> 01:43:24,659 it takes a you know we'll be here for 2314 01:43:30,379 --> 01:43:27,869 hours trying to saw you know you 2315 01:43:32,540 --> 01:43:30,389 understand and it's like your 2316 01:43:34,370 --> 01:43:32,550 experiences and other people's 2317 01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:34,380 experiences are just as important 2318 01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:36,810 although we're trying to put everything 2319 01:43:41,180 --> 01:43:39,210 together like a puzzle it still becomes 2320 01:43:43,220 --> 01:43:41,190 multi complex because like your 2321 01:43:46,070 --> 01:43:43,230 experience as sasha is so unique and 2322 01:43:49,700 --> 01:43:46,080 different to my experiences yet they're 2323 01:43:52,580 --> 01:43:49,710 telling the same thing so I believe that 2324 01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:52,590 your unique experiences are unique to 2325 01:43:57,799 --> 01:43:55,530 your soul level as it does with someone 2326 01:44:01,069 --> 01:43:57,809 else's in someone else's and 2327 01:44:03,260 --> 01:44:01,079 people's but I really believe that you 2328 01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:03,270 and I and many other people are looking 2329 01:44:07,339 --> 01:44:05,250 for that answer and trying to put these 2330 01:44:09,830 --> 01:44:07,349 very small pieces to the puzzle together 2331 01:44:13,669 --> 01:44:09,840 will we make it I don't know I'm not 2332 01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:13,679 sure if we will Ben certainly you you 2333 01:44:19,700 --> 01:44:16,530 must be heralded for you know carrying 2334 01:44:22,459 --> 01:44:19,710 that torch Sasha to truth and to honesty 2335 01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:22,469 and to integrity with regards to a very 2336 01:44:28,490 --> 01:44:25,050 multi complex problem that can't be 2337 01:44:30,609 --> 01:44:28,500 solved you know anytime soon so yeah 2338 01:44:32,750 --> 01:44:30,619 hats off to you sash you've done a 2339 01:44:34,939 --> 01:44:32,760 marvelous job in your work on what 2340 01:44:36,799 --> 01:44:34,949 you're doing so we're grateful today and 2341 01:44:39,169 --> 01:44:36,809 I remember we met because you know I was 2342 01:44:41,569 --> 01:44:39,179 speaking to someone and and I said all 2343 01:45:04,010 --> 01:44:41,579 you you Joe you don't look like Sasha 2344 01:45:06,020 --> 01:45:04,020 Christine you said I am believe me all 2345 01:45:07,910 --> 01:45:06,030 over I could be talking to one who I 2346 01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:07,920 believe is a complete stranger yet is 2347 01:45:21,709 --> 01:45:10,610 the holy grail of what I'm looking for 2348 01:45:24,470 --> 01:45:21,719 oh yeah yeah just makes you laugh stuff 2349 01:45:26,149 --> 01:45:24,480 when our environment seems to interact 2350 01:45:28,250 --> 01:45:26,159 or there's a trigger thoughts but then 2351 01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:28,260 it could just be a bumbling along one 2352 01:45:42,140 --> 01:45:30,210 day and then all this stuff will unfold 2353 01:45:44,870 --> 01:45:42,150 if I want it to go back to left right 2354 01:45:55,879 --> 01:45:44,880 you know when you said that use you with 2355 01:45:58,100 --> 01:45:55,889 the gray house yeah so you were kind of 2356 01:46:02,750 --> 01:45:58,110 a Scottie down and then the Noddy was 2357 01:46:05,330 --> 01:46:02,760 cross at the bottom yes well an 2358 01:46:07,260 --> 01:46:05,340 experience of a friend Paula you see I 2359 01:46:11,130 --> 01:46:07,270 really have to get you two together 2360 01:46:14,190 --> 01:46:11,140 she was playing with sons he was like 2361 01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:14,200 outside her house somebody had made it 2362 01:46:18,750 --> 01:46:17,050 into a beach and there was lots of kids 2363 01:46:21,390 --> 01:46:18,760 played in the sand and she kind of 2364 01:46:24,330 --> 01:46:21,400 walked out there and I think I'm getting 2365 01:46:26,730 --> 01:46:24,340 this right there was a blonde guy was 2366 01:46:28,830 --> 01:46:26,740 really good-looking and he had this suit 2367 01:46:30,540 --> 01:46:28,840 on but he was immaculate but two 2368 01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:30,550 immaculate there were no creases there 2369 01:46:36,780 --> 01:46:32,010 were no bends in anything he was just 2370 01:46:39,870 --> 01:46:36,790 totally kind of like perfect and so 2371 01:46:43,710 --> 01:46:39,880 anyway he took her hand and they ended 2372 01:46:48,380 --> 01:46:43,720 up flying and so she's flying in and he 2373 01:46:59,960 --> 01:46:52,740 turned into a grey oh my god he said 2374 01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:04,710 Wow that is spooky and I do know that 2375 01:47:09,290 --> 01:47:06,730 when I went to go and see a medium for 2376 01:47:12,060 --> 01:47:09,300 the varium thank God she was a good one 2377 01:47:14,430 --> 01:47:12,070 she used to work for the FBI in America 2378 01:47:15,750 --> 01:47:14,440 cold soul cases and I've gone to see 2379 01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:15,760 when my maternal grandmother had passed 2380 01:47:21,510 --> 01:47:17,770 over and who do you think was the first 2381 01:47:24,090 --> 01:47:21,520 there from the media notes is she the 2382 01:47:26,390 --> 01:47:24,100 medium said to me she didn't know me she 2383 01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:26,400 was absolutely brilliant Sasha she said 2384 01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:29,890 she said UFO she said I see UFOs with 2385 01:47:33,510 --> 01:47:31,930 you and she said I can see edgar cayce 2386 01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:33,520 written across your head she said are 2387 01:47:38,850 --> 01:47:35,170 you on page 92 of his book well I nearly 2388 01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:38,860 fell off the chair she said to me but 2389 01:47:43,890 --> 01:47:40,810 she said the greys she said I'm seeing 2390 01:47:46,380 --> 01:47:43,900 the greys and she said would it surprise 2391 01:47:48,090 --> 01:47:46,390 you to know that you once were one now 2392 01:47:49,530 --> 01:47:48,100 at that point I think we're going back 2393 01:47:51,300 --> 01:47:49,540 to what my grandmother died I didn't 2394 01:47:53,750 --> 01:47:51,310 quite understand what she was talking 2395 01:47:56,610 --> 01:47:53,760 about and I certainly would never enter 2396 01:47:58,590 --> 01:47:56,620 take the thought of being a grey but she 2397 01:48:00,390 --> 01:47:58,600 said that and she said she said to me 2398 01:48:02,250 --> 01:48:00,400 you're working on a theory she said it's 2399 01:48:04,410 --> 01:48:02,260 gonna take a long time but she said I'm 2400 01:48:07,140 --> 01:48:04,420 gonna tell you she said you'll be able 2401 01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:07,150 to connect a very very small piece to 2402 01:48:10,170 --> 01:48:08,770 this together with this psychic and I 2403 01:48:12,180 --> 01:48:10,180 said what you mean psychic she said you 2404 01:48:15,390 --> 01:48:12,190 gonna be a medium I said no I don't want 2405 01:48:18,690 --> 01:48:15,400 to be a medium I don't want to be right 2406 01:48:20,820 --> 01:48:18,700 you know she she she said well as you 2407 01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:20,830 know with genuine the 2408 01:48:24,510 --> 01:48:22,930 the genuine article and you meet a lot 2409 01:48:26,850 --> 01:48:24,520 of genuine articles with your apologies 2410 01:48:31,140 --> 01:48:26,860 so it makes you think about the greys 2411 01:48:33,420 --> 01:48:31,150 that wanted me to I had good look at 2412 01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:33,430 them and they just spoke it off 2413 01:48:43,140 --> 01:48:40,930 somewhere but that is spook I would see 2414 01:48:45,660 --> 01:48:43,150 a psychic in Leeds called tress Connor 2415 01:48:47,190 --> 01:48:45,670 and she was amazing she told me 2416 01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:47,200 everything that she said - totally is 2417 01:48:54,110 --> 01:48:50,050 it's happened but one day she said some 2418 01:48:57,540 --> 01:48:54,120 air reptilians are real you know like 2419 01:48:59,520 --> 01:48:57,550 I've not said anything about UFO and 2420 01:49:02,760 --> 01:48:59,530 I've never been abducted by reptilians 2421 01:49:05,010 --> 01:49:02,770 at that point but anyway she said we 2422 01:49:08,630 --> 01:49:05,020 were at a party and my husband said to 2423 01:49:12,150 --> 01:49:08,640 another psychic why do I always say UFOs 2424 01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:12,160 so the psychic said to him have you ever 2425 01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:31,090 looked in the mirror to speculate would 2426 01:49:37,500 --> 01:49:34,570 be that maybe souls are recycled into 2427 01:49:46,140 --> 01:49:37,510 all kinds of different beings and not 2428 01:49:48,530 --> 01:49:46,150 just humans great possibility because 2429 01:49:51,150 --> 01:49:48,540 you know we think we're the only 2430 01:49:53,580 --> 01:49:51,160 intelligence in this universe you said 2431 01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:53,590 earlier Sasha about space and how 2432 01:49:57,150 --> 01:49:55,360 frightened I think we would be just to 2433 01:50:00,030 --> 01:49:57,160 know how far that goes where it goes 2434 01:50:03,270 --> 01:50:00,040 what it is what I do Eve that we are 2435 01:50:05,460 --> 01:50:03,280 linked into not just the human species I 2436 01:50:07,830 --> 01:50:05,470 think we have evolved in this form 2437 01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:07,840 through a genetic manipulation through 2438 01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:09,730 some form of experiment where we slaves 2439 01:50:13,830 --> 01:50:11,650 I always say that we probably were 2440 01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:13,840 created as slaves this terrestrials and 2441 01:50:20,490 --> 01:50:15,730 not much has changed today is it because 2442 01:50:22,650 --> 01:50:20,500 we're still selected you know on a soul 2443 01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:22,660 level we we got to look at this on a 2444 01:50:27,660 --> 01:50:25,210 much larger scope I think we're - 2445 01:50:29,670 --> 01:50:27,670 contained at the moment I think there's 2446 01:50:32,010 --> 01:50:29,680 a much bigger picture to all of this and 2447 01:50:33,330 --> 01:50:32,020 certainly in one lifetime you know 2448 01:50:36,149 --> 01:50:33,340 there's 2449 01:50:39,390 --> 01:50:36,159 to be a huge distraction from it and 2450 01:50:44,879 --> 01:50:39,400 that's why is absolutely laughter when 2451 01:50:48,510 --> 01:50:44,889 those few black sheep and the things 2452 01:50:51,570 --> 01:50:48,520 that make you think what about this like 2453 01:50:54,180 --> 01:50:51,580 DMT are any of those kind of things that 2454 01:50:58,740 --> 01:50:54,190 literally I mean I've never taken it but 2455 01:51:01,740 --> 01:50:58,750 I've seen people change massively even 2456 01:51:03,510 --> 01:51:01,750 Mike Tyson right Mike Tyson did DMT he's 2457 01:51:06,660 --> 01:51:03,520 gone from being from what chewing 2458 01:51:07,830 --> 01:51:06,670 people's ears off to growing kind of 2459 01:51:08,339 --> 01:51:07,840 hiss and floating around like a big 2460 01:51:13,950 --> 01:51:08,349 fairy 2461 01:51:17,010 --> 01:51:13,960 you know he's mighty has completely 2462 01:51:21,959 --> 01:51:17,020 changed his aggression has gone it's all 2463 01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:21,969 like boom that and that is illegal we're 2464 01:51:29,939 --> 01:51:25,650 not allowed to do that actually become 2465 01:51:37,379 --> 01:51:29,949 authentic you might actually become a 2466 01:51:39,060 --> 01:51:37,389 girl yeah I was right with robots to a 2467 01:51:40,859 --> 01:51:39,070 system the system wants us to be robots 2468 01:51:42,750 --> 01:51:40,869 and I his book robots rebellion many 2469 01:51:45,149 --> 01:51:42,760 years ago and I thought my god my god 2470 01:51:48,390 --> 01:51:45,159 this guy's on the right page here I know 2471 01:51:50,370 --> 01:51:48,400 you know we all have different thoughts 2472 01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:50,380 about things but the way I see it is 2473 01:51:54,300 --> 01:51:52,449 that we are investigators UFO 2474 01:52:01,410 --> 01:51:54,310 investigators researchers it is not ego 2475 01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:01,420 it's not sensationalism and they and I 2476 01:52:05,820 --> 01:52:03,730 had some of my work compromised which 2477 01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:05,830 shocked me into the realization that you 2478 01:52:10,649 --> 01:52:08,170 know what this stuff is real there is 2479 01:52:14,700 --> 01:52:10,659 there is obviously some aspects to spurn 2480 01:52:16,470 --> 01:52:14,710 areas that the system does not want the 2481 01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:16,480 public to know about and you know I'm 2482 01:52:21,780 --> 01:52:19,199 I'm just the I'm just a very small piece 2483 01:52:23,310 --> 01:52:21,790 and all of this and I'm so pleased and 2484 01:52:25,260 --> 01:52:23,320 honored to be connected with a lot of 2485 01:52:27,180 --> 01:52:25,270 good people who are out looking for the 2486 01:52:30,629 --> 01:52:27,190 same thing and you know it's interesting 2487 01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:30,639 to listen to their experiences and share 2488 01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:33,119 within their experiences that I really 2489 01:52:37,620 --> 01:52:35,679 empathize with because you know when 2490 01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:37,630 you're there which I have been back in 2491 01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:40,690 1989 you know I've had a few other UFO 2492 01:52:47,250 --> 01:52:43,210 experiences quite a number of them some 2493 01:52:49,229 --> 01:52:47,260 of them are so strong they've never left 2494 01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:49,239 that one the one with our grandmother in 2495 01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:51,130 the garden with the silver sphere and 2496 01:52:57,180 --> 01:52:55,330 you know the ones that came in 2016 love 2497 01:52:59,070 --> 01:52:57,190 the life of April they're things that 2498 01:53:00,720 --> 01:52:59,080 you you remember like it was yesterday 2499 01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:00,730 and yet there are certain things I can't 2500 01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:02,530 remember that I said that I spoke about 2501 01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:06,489 yesterday so certainly it tells you as 2502 01:53:10,620 --> 01:53:08,050 yourself that when these experiences 2503 01:53:12,990 --> 01:53:10,630 come in they are real because they make 2504 01:53:14,940 --> 01:53:13,000 such an impression upon your psyche they 2505 01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:14,950 will never leave that and there is a 2506 01:53:26,630 --> 01:53:17,050 reason I believe for that happening most 2507 01:53:32,010 --> 01:53:30,090 we don't know okay so you're giving me 2508 01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:32,020 an unexplained thing to explain an 2509 01:53:45,210 --> 01:53:38,080 unexplained thing and you want me to 2510 01:53:48,330 --> 01:53:45,220 listen to you but it's been great though 2511 01:53:50,130 --> 01:53:48,340 I really I really enjoyed and and 2512 01:53:52,350 --> 01:53:50,140 grateful to the time that you've given 2513 01:53:53,970 --> 01:53:52,360 me Sasha on your wonderful show I mean 2514 01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:53,980 you know to a lot of people who come 2515 01:53:58,530 --> 01:53:56,410 into this new it's kind of like you get 2516 01:54:00,390 --> 01:53:58,540 into the deep waters because their 2517 01:54:06,900 --> 01:54:00,400 psyche is programmed with what the 2518 01:54:09,390 --> 01:54:06,910 system has taught them his truth I'm not 2519 01:54:11,130 --> 01:54:09,400 being crazy because again they we know 2520 01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:11,140 that we're not we know that we're 2521 01:54:25,950 --> 01:54:23,290 bringing her about it she believed me 2522 01:54:29,130 --> 01:54:25,960 she was into all that kind of stuff as 2523 01:54:32,700 --> 01:54:29,140 well she was relieved to have clay I was 2524 01:54:34,710 --> 01:54:32,710 doing mindfulness and she said to me you 2525 01:54:36,690 --> 01:54:34,720 know like because I was saying but I 2526 01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:36,700 just feel like it's calm I just feel 2527 01:54:41,070 --> 01:54:38,890 crazy sometimes my Hades that will 2528 01:54:45,450 --> 01:54:41,080 control all these thoughts and these 2529 01:54:48,690 --> 01:54:45,460 ideas and my brain just you hands to 2530 01:54:52,650 --> 01:54:48,700 have an answer it's not satisfied like I 2531 01:54:56,130 --> 01:54:52,660 I can accept certain things but my brain 2532 01:54:57,780 --> 01:54:56,140 goes no I really want to know so I'm not 2533 01:55:00,030 --> 01:54:57,790 gonna stop doing it over 2534 01:55:04,650 --> 01:55:00,040 it makes me feel crazy she said to me 2535 01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:04,660 there's no cure for Sun let's say like 2536 01:55:08,700 --> 01:55:06,370 you have to learn to live in your own 2537 01:55:12,420 --> 01:55:08,710 skin oh oh my god where do I go from 2538 01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:12,430 there I need to be what's a night behind 2539 01:55:17,580 --> 01:55:14,890 the crazy lady somedays because I'll get 2540 01:55:24,450 --> 01:55:17,590 so much sugar nope I'm just crazy I'm 2541 01:55:26,670 --> 01:55:24,460 mental and then I think you could see in 2542 01:55:28,230 --> 01:55:26,680 the world when especially at work as 2543 01:55:31,020 --> 01:55:28,240 well in other areas of people working 2544 01:55:33,780 --> 01:55:31,030 like people just switch off and I can 2545 01:55:34,980 --> 01:55:33,790 understand but you know we you and 2546 01:55:36,570 --> 01:55:34,990 people like yourself or many other 2547 01:55:38,580 --> 01:55:36,580 people are pioneers into the truth and 2548 01:55:40,350 --> 01:55:38,590 thank God for people like you because 2549 01:55:48,930 --> 01:55:40,360 without you that would still be going 2550 01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:48,940 around in circles as many pumps to that 2551 01:55:52,950 --> 01:55:51,610 and hopefully I mean I I certainly have 2552 01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:52,960 never been one for the limelight or 2553 01:55:57,750 --> 01:55:55,330 sensationalism but there is a deep need 2554 01:56:01,200 --> 01:55:57,760 inside my soul for that truth and I 2555 01:56:03,450 --> 01:56:01,210 think to to dam the system that tells us 2556 01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:03,460 that no we are right and you are wrong 2557 01:56:09,030 --> 01:56:06,490 and I'd like no actually mate but you 2558 01:56:12,030 --> 01:56:09,040 are wrong and we are right and you know 2559 01:56:18,010 --> 01:56:12,040 I'd love to to get into all of that you 2560 01:56:24,030 --> 01:56:20,750 [Laughter] 2561 01:56:25,500 --> 01:56:24,040 any with the research with the soul with 2562 01:56:28,650 --> 01:56:25,510 the abduction phenomena with the 2563 01:56:30,540 --> 01:56:28,660 theoretical aspects behind that and you 2564 01:56:32,550 --> 01:56:30,550 know trying to piece more parts to the 2565 01:56:34,740 --> 01:56:32,560 puzzles together I am I'm working on a 2566 01:56:36,810 --> 01:56:34,750 book that I've almost finished for 2567 01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:36,820 Philip mentals flying this press called 2568 01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:38,410 you the public to see the grand you 2569 01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:40,810 afraid I said so much deals a lot with 2570 01:56:44,670 --> 01:56:43,090 old cases and new cases then coming into 2571 01:56:47,430 --> 01:56:44,680 the theoretical aspect of that but I 2572 01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:47,440 will be working on another UFO but which 2573 01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:50,410 I hope will be able to explore this in 2574 01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:53,170 much much finer detail but that's going 2575 01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:55,330 to take some time but I'm also halfway 2576 01:56:58,950 --> 01:56:56,530 through a spiritual book called 2577 01:57:02,460 --> 01:56:58,960 guardians of the Dead but I hope to get 2578 01:57:04,740 --> 01:57:02,470 finished late next year because this UFO 2579 01:57:06,180 --> 01:57:04,750 one has come in before while I was 2580 01:57:08,310 --> 01:57:06,190 writing that one so I've had to kind of 2581 01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:08,320 like put the other one on hold for a 2582 01:57:15,500 --> 01:57:10,410 minute 2583 01:57:18,380 --> 01:57:15,510 out there now there's science-fiction 2584 01:57:20,540 --> 01:57:18,390 children's the this the ones that were 2585 01:57:22,850 --> 01:57:20,550 published to do with was reaching for 2586 01:57:24,890 --> 01:57:22,860 the divine that was a psychic book then 2587 01:57:26,810 --> 01:57:24,900 there was believed bridging the gap 2588 01:57:29,930 --> 01:57:26,820 between the psychic and UFO phenomena 2589 01:57:32,420 --> 01:57:29,940 and sky crash throughout time which I 2590 01:57:33,830 --> 01:57:32,430 co-authored with Brenda Butler which is 2591 01:57:36,020 --> 01:57:33,840 a continued investigation to the 2592 01:57:37,370 --> 01:57:36,030 Wrentham UFO mystery and then I brought 2593 01:57:40,610 --> 01:57:37,380 out to Amazon because I lost my 2594 01:57:43,130 --> 01:57:40,620 publishers they both died a passage to 2595 01:57:43,750 --> 01:57:43,140 Eternity the Enigma of the dead UFOs and 2596 01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:43,760 aliens 2597 01:57:49,670 --> 01:57:46,770 so that explored more of the the soul 2598 01:57:53,060 --> 01:57:49,680 part and the theoretical application of 2599 01:57:55,100 --> 01:57:53,070 the abduction phenomena in in more 2600 01:57:57,740 --> 01:57:55,110 detail but as I said we're still putting 2601 01:58:00,590 --> 01:57:57,750 parts to the theoretical model together 2602 01:58:02,870 --> 01:58:00,600 and that might take some time so you 2603 01:58:04,310 --> 01:58:02,880 know it's interesting and I enjoy doing 2604 01:58:06,050 --> 01:58:04,320 it I love meeting people I love 2605 01:58:08,450 --> 01:58:06,060 listening to their experiences and you 2606 01:58:10,580 --> 01:58:08,460 know I I really am grateful to the 2607 01:58:12,050 --> 01:58:10,590 opportunities that you know people like 2608 01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:12,060 yourself and other people have given me 2609 01:58:16,460 --> 01:58:14,610 in having a small voice to help towards 2610 01:58:23,690 --> 01:58:16,470 something that we can bring to the table 2611 01:58:24,650 --> 01:58:23,700 basically all of us want to have these 2612 01:58:26,810 --> 01:58:24,660 conversations 2613 01:58:29,210 --> 01:58:26,820 they're just frightened of doing so 2614 01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:29,220 because of the ridicule factor you know 2615 01:58:34,310 --> 01:58:31,890 and I think that's an area that we've 2616 01:58:43,460 --> 01:58:34,320 got to do a lot of work on and the 2617 01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:43,470 community is just you know talk all the 2618 01:58:47,810 --> 01:58:46,410 ideas around and that's how I I think it 2619 01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:47,820 should work with honesty and integrity 2620 01:58:51,380 --> 01:58:50,130 and honor and I think that's the only 2621 01:58:58,160 --> 01:58:51,390 way that we're going to make any headway 2622 01:59:00,290 --> 01:58:58,170 into this phenomena definitely oh yeah 2623 01:59:02,150 --> 01:59:00,300 so twin souls I do that with my twin 2624 01:59:04,850 --> 01:59:02,160 brother Ronald who's the artist and 2625 01:59:07,550 --> 01:59:04,860 author himself and we that we do that 2626 01:59:09,380 --> 01:59:07,560 once a month because obviously there's a 2627 01:59:11,870 --> 01:59:09,390 lot of work in between them and doing 2628 01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:11,880 other stuff as well so yeah that's a 2629 01:59:15,470 --> 01:59:13,650 great opportunity with the paranormal UK 2630 01:59:17,090 --> 01:59:15,480 radio network so we're very honored for 2631 01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:17,100 that as well we've got some very 2632 01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:18,210 interesting guests on there as well 2633 01:59:22,490 --> 01:59:20,610 which is fantastic 2634 01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:22,500 well he's been an absolute pleasure and 2635 01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:25,050 I've got so much more to tell you but 2636 01:59:31,010 --> 01:59:28,290 for now we are over and done and thank 2637 01:59:33,169 --> 01:59:31,020 you for being my guest lesson thank you